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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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78pinto

if you "pour" the nitrous to that TC block without a turbo it will also kick out some serious horsepower. I think i remember someone spraying a 250hp shot at it with good results!
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krazi

I have a 2800 in my bobcat, and I've stripped the paint off the aluminum intake, rebuilt the carburetor, and did some polishing inside the intake. I also added an open element air filter. I don't know how much power I'm putting out, but I can bark the tires when I stirr the gears. it has a c-4 and an 8inch rear. my auto teacher said something about advancing the retarded cam, but I don't want to pull the engine apart again unless I have to.

krazi
yeah, I'm Krazi!

dirt track demon

Beleive it or not, my v-6 is totally stock, except for the 71 carb off a v-8, the car only has 62000 miles on it.  My first experience with a 2.8 besides the one my friend rebuilt for his ranger.  The whole ranger thing had me convinced they were junk, but I figured Id give it a try since we have 6 cyl class. And I was pretty shocked the first time I took it out.
I was up against 90's grand prix's and grand am's and they weren't a problem.  I had my car a little too set up. I could corner like a demon but I fish tailed down the straights. I've got that problem figured out though. If it ever quits raining on saturdays I'll find out if it worked.
 The original plan was to 4 cyl the thing with some of the goodies I had stored, but Since the 6 ran I tried it.  Now I'm going to hammer it til it pukes.
Favorite place to race:on the xbox

Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

69GT

Racer Walsh is more like they. I think the guys name was Scott or something.

69GT

Thanks for the warning. I might just go to the Racer Walsh catalog for a N/A roller cam. I think they have several. I have a catalog around here somewhere. More lift and duration sounds good to me. I think you can go up to close to .480-.500 lift with the stock length valves. The head has 1.89/ 1.59 Ferea valves so durability will not be a problem. He (Racer Walsh) says it should go to alittle over 7000 RPM with no trouble and make good power. I can use the .420 cam later on the turbo set up if I decide to use it.
   How strong is that 2.8? What mods does it have? It sounds like fun. I suppose 200 HP would be possible with some porting, compression, and a big cam with good exhaust. It must scream, and have decent torq.

dirt track demon

Mine cornered like it was on rails too,  ones that were covered in grease!!!!!
Favorite place to race:on the xbox

Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

crazyhorse

Yeah, the Pinto likes to change direction. The footprint is nearly square, that is almost as wide as it is long. This makes an unstable little beast. However just like in a Fighter Jet, a little unstable is a god thing. It makes a lively little car. Add in a manual rack & some 205 series tires & the Pinto will nearly roll over before it slides. My car will corner on two wheels (as my wife will testify) I run KYB gas shocks on all 4 corners & an Addco sway bar on the front. My tires are 195/60-14 front 205/65-14 rear Michelin One Touring. The tires are sized for looks & rake, but it still corners like it's on rails! Now if I could get rid of that annoying LT rear brake lockup I'd be in business!!
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dirt track demon

yep it is pretty short,  I think 96" somewhere around there.  That turbo .420 cam you mentioned is gonna zoop unless it is used with a turbo.  Been there done that weren't happy.
Favorite place to race:on the xbox

Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

69GT

Yea, that 2.0 my crazy friend had is the source of alott of his stories. I like to hear them since at 32 years old the 70s are kinda foggy distant memories. The two cars I own are the same age I am. We are all holding up well...heh. My friend wanted to mod the 2.0 and port the head and add a monster cam .near .560 lift and like 245 duration :o) he still has lying around but I really would rather have the 2.3 for parts availability, cubes, and the hydrolic roller cam I have is a little .420 lift turbo cam that will run nice and still get good mileage. That 2.3 you had sounds like a good inspiration for me to go with one of my own. I mean I really have alott of parts for 2.3s laying around any way. (Including a motor) The headder is neat looking and the ported head was from my SVO. The guy I sold it to bought an Eslinger aluminum head and wants to sell the iron head back to me for a really low price.  Funny part is he absolutly CLOBBERED me with my old SVO when I was driving the Maverick. I mean all I could do was wave to my old SVO as it ran away from me. I think it's hitting about 350 at the wheels at street gas friendly boost levels (15 PSI or so) It has a Vortech aftercooler and an aftermarket turbo and computer, and 4.10s in an 8.8 with posi. Sadly it weighs more than the Mav. It weighs 3050. The Mav weighs 2840. The Pinto weighs 2220.  I figure that I'll lay the ground work with the N/A 2.3. It should raise some eyebrows.
     Oh and Pintos appear to love spining out! Mine at stock power levels takes some dirt and powerslideing to get started but wow does that rear end come around quick. The short wheel base makes things very interesting and makes them happen very fast. I forgot what the wheel base of the Pinto is but the Mavs is 103" Isnt the Pintos around 90 something?

dirt track demon

If you lock the rear end, and put a steering quickener and a set of handlebars instead of a steering wheel, you go from a go-kart to a 4 wheeler feeling!! ;D

  I had a lot of fun with the 2.3 that was in my first pinto, but it was a late model dirt track motor tuned down for the street.  I dont know what for cam it was, the motor was done when I  traded for the car. But after it blew up I realized it had domed pistons as well.  Had to be real careful driving this car. In third gear on dry roads, if you pushed the pedal too far you were around in aring and in somebody's yard.  The guy I got the car from didn't know about the motor, he got it and never drove it. But I tracked down the previous owner and got the scoop.  I thought something was broken under the rear end when I got the car, cause I was in three peoples yards before i got it home.  I just couldn't figure it out. I replaced the shocks, every bushing and rubber piece, and it still went around in a ring, so I went to the front and replaced everything.  I couldn't figure out what was wrong, so that's when I tracked the other guy down.
  It just blew my mind, I was always a v-8 guy, and never would have thought in a million years you could get that kinda power and torque out of a 4 banger.  Pissed off a lot of people before that motor scattered all over hte road.
Favorite place to race:on the xbox

Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

69GT

Thanks Demon. I forgot that today was Saturday and that the shop is closed so I'll have to check Monday for the manual trans cars. I think I will be running a 2.3 naturally aspirated with a 5-Speed and 4.11 gears. I have an old Turbo Coup motor and T-5 5-speeds are easy to find around here. I have access to my old ported big valve head too. (Used to have a modded SVO) I still have the roller cam I bought for it. Hell I dont have to smog the Pinto eather because it's pre 1975. So I might get an even bigger roller cam. I have a friend who used to race Pintos who of course loves them. He is also a very experianced head porter. He likes both the 2.8 and the 2.3, ok and the 2.0. In the 70s he had a 73 with the 2.0 with EVERYTHING you could throw at it. Had 11:1 compression huge cam brazed and ported head and twin Delordo 2BBls. It ran low 13s and he made alott of money drag racing it. He has fond memories of a 289 equipped Pinto station wagon he later had that ran low 12s and was a daily driver. He named it the Golden Toad.
He's been a bad influence on me as I now own a 72 Pinto AND his (and mine) other favorite Ford a 72 V-8 Grabber Maverick that is now equipped with a 9" rear 3.70 posi and T-5 5_speed ,ported and decked 69 W heads big cam and every other old school thing you can do to it. I am saving for a 331 stroker and AFR heads. Oh and a Tremec tranny. Funny thing is I get just as many complements for the Pinto as I do the Maverick :) 
     Any way so how does this combo sound guys? 2.3 (old TC motor with forged pistons) with a T-5, Ported big valve head, 350 CFM 2BBL carb on a FI lower intake manifold. 8" with posi (already have it) 4.11s . I also have a full length headder for a Pinto or Mustang 2  with a 2.3. The crazy Pinto friend I mentioned  gave it to me. I am aiming for 140-160 HP but I am aware that the motor will onely have about 8.5:1 compression when done (Dished TC pistons) But it will leave the option to put all the turbo stuff on later if I get unsatisfied with its performance. I just want it to be able to out run the average ricer witch means low 14s would do. It's no fun in the Maverick to pull up next to them, they will not even look at me half the time. In the Mavs defence it cackles and makes alott of muscle car noises. Even though the 302 is tired and it onely runns mid 13s at 106.
    Any way the 2.8 is also abundent around here and there is a guy who always seems to be going the other way with an early 70s Capri with a wild 2.8 that I watched out run a mid 80s Z-28 repeatedly. I just diddnt care at the time now I cant find him!
     Any experiances you guys have with eather the 2.3 or the 2.8 that you can relay would be helpfull and I love the stories any way so dont worry about long winded posts....Hell I think I just wrote a book here.
Thanks guys.

P.S. My Pinto sometimes makes me feel like I am driving a go-cart with a roof. It's more fun than it should be :)

dirt track demon

I'm not sure about the 3.0 and 4.0;  2.8 ranger stuff will work, but they are a pain in the ....
They have the hydraulic clutch, the newer ones have a hydraulic throw out.  You also have to watch, cause depending on application some of those trannies have a longer or shorter input shaft, and different diameter bushing ends on the shaft.
  Keep me posted on the bells and stuff. Lost a lot of sleep over this already from comparing ratios and figuring gearing and tire size changes ;D.
Favorite place to race:on the xbox

Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

69GT

    I live in Fresno CA.  The two Mustang 2s are at my friends shop. ( The Mustang Ranch) I am sure he would ship the parts you want. I'll stop by there tomorrow if time permits and make sure they are still there and are manual trans cars. I was pretty sure one or both were 4-Speed cars. The onely problem is I think they are buried in behind other cars. So it might take alittle work to get to them.
   Still curious about any 5-Speed options though. I wonder if the 5-Speeds that were behind the Ranger 3.0 and 4.0 V-6 have the same bolt pattern? They are the same engine family.....Hmmmmmmm??? Worth checking.
   Thanks for the info.
-Aaron

Any one else have any ideas?

dirt track demon

The 2.3 would be better as far as parts availability.  I am currently in the I wonder stage about the 2.8 myself. But I cant find enough resources to make it worth while.  If you need a link to 2.3 parts to browse thru try speedwaymotors.com.  Just about any mod you can think of is avail for the 2.3.  Your Idea about the fuel inj intake has been tried but results werent as good as anticipated,  you are talking about the one that looks like a 4 barrel could be mounted on it with a little machine work?

  If you have access to some musty 2 parts. I am in need of a 2.8 manual bell housing, flywheel, and the clutch mechanisms.  please respond, my car does pretty good at the dirt track with the c-4, but a manual tranny would give me an even bigger edge.
Favorite place to race:on the xbox

Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

69GT

      Anyone souped up a 2.8? What were the results? Fun or no fun? I know Racer Walsh sells some cams and exhaust parts. I was looking for a good alternative to the 2.0 . I wanted to stay N/A for simplicity and I want to keep the manual trans maybe even go to a 5-Speed like i did on my Maverick.  I know the 2.8 fits and manual trans are available from Mustang 2 donor cars (I have access to several). I also can have the heads ported, so thats no problem. Is the 2.8 trans to engine bolt pattern compatiblel with any 5-Speeds?
     The other idea was a 2.3 with bigger roller cam and F.I. lower intake converted to 2-BBL carb and ported head. I know the 5-Speeds will be easyer on this project but it's still 30 cubes smaller.  I have an 8" rear out of another Pinto and 4.11 gears for it. 
   It will be going in a 72 model with disk brakes and 4-Speed. I love the friggin car but it needs about 100 more HP.

What is your opinions on this? All would be welcome. Wich ones the better idea?
Thanks
-Aaron


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