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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Group II Pinto's?

Started by TIGGER, June 09, 2003, 02:57:20 AM

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TIGGER

Well then that brochure is different than the one I have.  I have a multiple page copy. 

Doug, I have only seen two Group II Pinto's to date and they were both early cars.  One was a 72 that my friend owned.  The other was a 71, I believe, that was on Ebay a couple months ago. 
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

dholvrsn

Were these Group II options available as late as the '79 and '80 Pintos?
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dick1172762

Quote from: Pintony on August 20, 2008, 04:56:32 AM
IT is a 1 page brochure.
And you guys think I'm nuts for spending money on dash pads.
It is cardboard!!!
Buy a Printer!!!

TOO FUNNY!!!
Tony!  Buy it and make copys to sell on e-bay
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

TIGGER

Quote from: Pintony on August 20, 2008, 04:56:32 AM
IT is a 1 page brochure.
And you guys think I'm nuts for spending money on dash pads.
It is cardboard!!!
Buy a Printer!!!

TOO FUNNY!!!

Tony, it is actually a 4-5 page catalog showing all the parts and the three packages they offered.
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73 Turbo HB
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FCANON

We never said the reason we thought you were nuts was because you spent the money....  :lost:

That is a nice brochure to have..hummm

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TIGGER

There is another Group II brochure on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-Pinto-Customizing-Kit-Pamphlet_W0QQitemZ220270674974QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item220270674974&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C65%3A1%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

It is already up to $51 :surprised:  I am not bidding on it since I already have one.  There are two guys bidding on it.  It will be interesting to see if it goes for more....
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

uncleamin

Yeah I saw this car.....I'm only like 25-30 minutes away from it too. It would be mine if I had the extra cash. Someone on here needs to give me the money to buy it and I'll drive it around till they can come get it!! :fastcar:

r4pinto

Not a problem. I've been there myself from time to time. Glad I was able to help ya.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

popbumper

Found it - duh  ???, thanks for your patience.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

r4pinto

When you are on the forum page, you will see something that has your username, under it how many users are online. keep looking down the page, you'll see an item for sale in the Pinto store, then some links. Brick-A-Brack is one of those links, the 10th one down. It's there as I'm looking right at it. Again, this is on the left side of the page. Hope this helps.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

popbumper

Sorry - I just looked again very carefully and I just can't find any "bric-a-brac" section. Thanks for trying to help.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

r4pinto

There are links to the left on the page. Just slowly scroll them & you can see the link for Bric-A-Brack.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

popbumper

Quote from: Scott Hamilton on January 10, 2004, 10:57:51 AM
Henry sent that mag to me to get it online, go to the bricc-a-brac section & look for Henry's name... you can read the entire article online.

Huh? Bricc-a-brac section? Where is that?

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

dick1172762

Yes! And no, I don't still have them! They were stick ons and went in the round file cabnet. I made a race car out if it in the mid 70's. It also came with A70-13 Polly what ever tires. Only other option was an am radio. Car really look'd good back in 72. Red with a white stripe. Its pictured in the gallery along with Racer Walsh's car. I raced it from mid 70's till 95.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

TIGGER

Did your car come with the emblems? 
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73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

dick1172762

Group II was a promo by the dealers. I bought my 72 new in Dallas and it came with Shelby slots and a Sperco stripe down the side. The Group II name is the orignal name of the under2 liters trans-am class in SCCA. Group I was the pony cars and Group II was the under 2.0 (later 2.5) liter class.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

r4pinto

I do like the look of that console. A shame I can't find one like that. I did notice that the valve cover & timing cover are the nicest looking pieces on the whole car. The guy painted those parts but left the ugly old air cleaner housing.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

TIGGER

Quote from: Pintony on April 13, 2008, 07:57:56 AM
Hey Tigger,
I saw that!
BUT the stable is FULL!!!
I really do not see much of anything that makes it special???
From Pintony

You are right, it is just a kit that Autosport Product put together for the Pinto.  It is interesting to me because I have some of the parts from a car that had the kit. 
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

r4pinto

The rear bumper with the extra hole in it for muffler cooling. That was a rare option only offered for high dollar.  ;D
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

TIGGER

TTT  ;D  There is a Group II Pinto on Ebay this week.  I wish it was closer :-\  Here is the link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-pinto-GROUP-II-2-ford-pinto_W0QQitemZ300215595268QQcmdZViewItem
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

TIGGER

Quote from: Scott Hamilton on October 08, 2005, 11:42:07 AM
Tigger,

If you're willing, I can scan the original & put it on line for everyone to see.  Just need to borrow the flier for a week. You can ask around, several have done this with me & I have never lost or damaged anyone's article,

You call...

Sorry Scott, I must have missed your original request to post this catalog.  I will send it to you....  Do I send it to the same address I sent the windshield gasket?
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TIGGER

Quote from: Scott Hamilton on October 08, 2005, 11:42:07 AM
Tigger,

If you're willing, I can scan the original & put it on line for everyone to see.  Just need to borrow the flier for a week. You can ask around, several have done this with me & I have never lost or damaged anyone's article,

You call...
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73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

TIGGER

Quote from: Pintony on October 08, 2005, 07:45:34 AM
Hello TIGGER,
Almost everything that was posted in this subject line can be found in old magazines.
Not just Car magazines. Playboy and Field & Stream Advertised the Ford Pinto.
Do you have an Honest John's Catilog?
This company was a bit like J.C Whitney back in the day.
The console you show in your photos could be purchased through Honest John's.
Remember that in 1971 Ford sold nearly 1/2 million Pintos.
The Pinto was 1995.00 base price and Many dealerships capitolized on that fact.
With stripe and creature comfort items + go fast goodies
Many aftermarket companys jumped into the production of parts.
Do you have an Ieco catilog?
I'm pretty sure that is where you can find the Group II emblems.
From Pintony



Thanks for the info Pintony.  I do not have either catalog.  Is either company still in business?  Didn't Ieco sell VW parts?
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

Scott Hamilton

Tigger,

If you're willing, I can scan the original & put it on line for everyone to see.  Just need to borrow the flier for a week. You can ask around, several have done this with me & I have never lost or damaged anyone's article,

You call...
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The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

TIGGER

Pintony, here is the thread I started on this.  Just curious if you know anything about these and if you know were I can find some of these parts.  I would really like to find a set of emblems.  Wayne, my friend who owned the car, has misplaced them.  79 panel, I have a color scanner / printer now.  Send me your address and I can send you a color copy.
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

Scott Hamilton

I can post it here on FordPinto.com if you want for eveyone to see, I will need to borrow the material & scan it to do so however...
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

TIGGER

I've got no way of making a color copy, sorry.  I would be happy to send you a normal copy?  Let me know if that will do.
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

wagonmaster

Any possibility of getting a color copy of it? If so, how much would you want for it?
Brien - wagonmaster
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TIGGER

It was $40 and some change with shipping.  Too much but I had to have it.  I am sure you know how that goes ;D

Thanks again Henry...
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

71pintok

I hope that e mail I sent you made you buy it. How much was it?
Henry


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