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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

2007 All Ford show at Carlisle

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phils toys

I really want to go and my oldest son wants to go  and it would be a shame not to have at lease 1 bobcat there . Plus  now conies car is modified i may be able to get better than 3rd place ,  that is if original 74 does not bring both of his  :look:  eather way i am on vacation  at that time, so time is not a problem.
phils toys
i do have an idea for the goody bag  where should i send it?
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77turbopinto

Thanks Pintoman, glad to do it.

Thanks to the OFG crew, see you there.

Are you still thinking you will be up here the week before?

Bill
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pintoman

Hey Bill.You are doing a great job.If we don't get enough preregistered for the tent,don't worry about the fee you will get it back.And yes there will be at least 4 from the OFG.8 weeks just does not seem like enough time to get ready but i will be there.
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77turbopinto

Thanks for letting me know about that Phil. Connie and I hope you can still make it there, however we do understand.

BTW: I just got off the phone with Scott and it looks like everything is coming together nicely. We are all going to have a great time.

Any input from anyone is welcome.

Connie and I are looking forward to seeing everybody, again for some, first time for others.

Bill.

BTW: Anyone from the "OFG" going to be there??
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phils toys

i am registered but now i am not 100% sure we will make it  decided i needed a garage so money is a bit tighter if i do make it it will be sat and sun only
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77turbopinto

Anyone else registered or thinking of it?

We only have about 8 weeks to go until the show, and only about 4 weeks for the tent refund.

Bill
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77turbopinto

Thanks to all that are updating their plans on this thread, now get back to work on the Pintos.

I have not been back in contact with Carlisle, and might not be again until VERY late April (I don't want to be a pest).

Harley: Sure, if folks want to do that. At this point I am not sure about tables for the tent.

Bill
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turbowagonman

I know I am wayyyy late on this subject but I should have my car drivable by the time the Carlisle event comes around. If it is I will be there with my Turbo Wagon. The reason I have not replied to this topic before is, when this topic was started I had Snow on the ground and I am an Avid Snowmobiler so I was out enjoying my Winter activity. Now that the snow is all gone I am working on my Pinto feverishly to get it on the road. I konw that a Lame excuse but thats my story and I am sticking to it!

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pintoman

Hey Bill.How about we have a model car contest.Have people bring there 1/24th scale Pinto metal or plastic kits.
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77turbopinto

Got word today from Carlisle that there are 11 Pintos registered so far; fantastic! We had a TOTAL of 15 at the show last year.

The "bad" part is that only 4 are registered as PCCA members (Connie and I are 2 of them).

I have contacted Carlisle and people CAN contact them to update their registrations to add PCCA, and PCCA will get "credit" for the registration. This detail will not cost you anything to do, but it helps the club. If we have 25 registered members BEFORE may 4th, we get the tent for free. Please do your part.

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77turbopinto

If you can, see if you can find a "Nerf" one.

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pintoman

Hey Bill.Mike and myself will bring the Hot Wheels track to Carlisle again this year.Lets hope we can double our attendance.We are trying to find the piston for the piston toss.Anything else we need to bring with us.
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77turbopinto

No need to have your car "finished" or even "started". Just put a sign on it that states what your plans are for it, and what you have done so far.

You have to get there some how, right? Why not enter it and get into the show for 3 days, not have to pay for parking, and you won't have 5 miles to get back to your car with all the parts you buy.

UPDATE: I have applied and paid for the tent (we have a tent). Again, PLEASE support this site and the club (PCCA); when you register please make sure you state you are with PCCA.

Also, please post here if you plan to go.

Bill
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JELLO

I"ll be going to ford carlisle unfortunatly my car is not done or even started. i"ll be there looking for parts. i will stop by the tent if you have one. good luck and hope to see you there.

77turbopinto

Thanks.

I think all is good for now. I do want to do most of the things we did last year. I am going to come up with some sort of contest and give aways. If anyone has any ideas, please PM me.


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pintoman

I received my confirmation today.Can't wait to get there.Hey Bill is there anything i can do to help.
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77turbopinto

ATTENTION:

If you pre-register, you MUST state AT THAT TIME, that you are a member of PCCA. This will help our club a BUNCH.

Thanks,
Bill
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Boss2300

Hi Gang,
  You can count on me being there all 3 days, so long as my fuel pump relay doesn't get soaked by the rain like last year. (LOL) I'll of course bring the turbo Cruisin Wagon. Hope to see more Pintos there this year.  There is nothing like getting together with good folks that share the same interest. Has anyone checked in with Paul to see if he has anything in the works with Carlisle ??? Here is his email paulbert07@verizon.net if it's still good. I got it from him last year before we left Carlisle. Hope to see all you Pinto nuts in June.   :welcome:
       
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fomogo

I will be there!!! I am preregistering next week :D


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77turbopinto

Update:

I talked to Toni at Carlisle yesterday. The tent is in the works.

Bill
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pintopaul2003

sounds like its going to be a great time , maybe by then i can get the wife and kids together and at least stop by the tent and say hello, cant fit the wife and the 3 kids in my ranger so it looks like we would have to take her explorer maybe i can convince to let me put a trailer hitch on it so i could tow 1 of my 3 pintos down there. Paul Bessey and family Schroon Lake N.Y
we have a new addition to the pinto family
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phils toys

We may not make it for all 3 days but i will definately be there for sat and sun  we had to get a new daily driver  so there goes some of the spare money
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77turbopinto

Scott, I will do that.

UPDATE: I have not heard back from Carlisle.

Bill
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Scott Hamilton

Bill,

Let me know how I can help...

PM me ASAP...
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77turbopinto

I emailed Carlisle to inquire about a tent.

Bill
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77turbopinto

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77turbopinto

Yes, more Pintos!!

If you don't mind driving 10-15 miles, you can save a BUNCH on a room.

Bill
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pintoman

The Carlisle show is the first weekend in June.That would be the first second and the third of June.If you plan on coming down you need to start making hotel-motel reservations real soon.This is because every thing fills up fast.It's a great show,hope to see you there,Harley[Pintoman].
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78pinto

when is the Carlisle show, I'd like to go!
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