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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

2013 Stampede to start with a BANG!!!!!

Started by Norman Bagi, December 07, 2012, 12:58:32 PM

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Cookieboystoys

We're getting closer folks, join us for the 2013 Pinto Stampede. The Stampede starts August 1st and runs thru August 3rd. Kick off party July 31st at the Bullet Stop Gun Shop in Loves Park, Illinois. Email Norm Bagi at BossPinto@PintoStampede.com for details and to join today.

Route Details Here ~~> http://www.pintostampede.com/theplan.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFOr82Z2zQI
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

flash041

This weekend on the way to visit Jim Madison for the weekend I visited one of our stops . Antique Archaeology . I dropped off a Stampede flier and my card. The woman working at the shop says she would give it to Mike. 
1978 Pinto Cruising wagon (I am the original owner ! ) Built Aug 15th 1977 in NJ
1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

Norman Bagi

Hotel information has been emailed to all Stampeders. We are one step closer to our 2013 drive.  Anyone wanting to join in, send an email to Norm the "Trail Boss" at bosspinto@pintostampede.com and I will send you all the information.

Norman Bagi

Matt,
Just say the word and I will add you to the list, I stil have your information from before. I have over 27 Pinto's signed up so far, we still have about 5 months to go.  Planning is coming together and the run will go down America's first Interstate, The Mighty Mississippi, we will travel on the great river road and it is going to be an epic ride. I understand this is one of the most beautiful drives and it should be a fun one..........

Norman Bagi
"Trail  Boss"
www.pintostampede.com
bosspinto@pintostampede.com

r4pinto

I sooooo wanna do this. I can't do Carlisle this year due to my buying my own place but I wanna try to do this.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

fast64ranchero

Well Crap, I already had the time off for the CA run......  Oh well, some day something will be close...
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72 Treasure Valley Special 26K miles pinto
72 old V-8 parts Pinto
73 pinto, the nice one...

Norman Bagi

Great news Tommy, I got your email as well.  You are added to the list, we now have 20 Pinto's scheduled!  I have an aluminum radiator in my V8 Pinto (Griffin, custom made, cannot say enough good things about them)  I also am installing an electric fan this winter because when stuck in traffic in high heat, the temps do go up.  She never overheated, but I don't want to take any chances. Putting them on all my Pinto's this winter.  Just some food for thought.

Norm

TOMMYS

Brenda and I are planning on attending. It sounds like a great time. It may be a little warm for a ride like that in the V* Pinto, but we are game! Count us in. TommyS and BrendaG............ :)

Norman Bagi


DreamBean

Oh there is no peer pressure. This may sound Corny, But I have an Extended family. People that I (and Sherry) ENJOY hanging around. And to do it for a great cause? That is icing on the cake. Our Family, Friends and even my co-workers know what we want to do on our vacations. I would have never thought that a little car would have led me to get to meet so many Great people. We have so much fun just hanging out with everyone. Even Harley. This is not just a car club to me. It's a brotherhood (and Sisterhood) of people that not only love there cars but other people. 
Go Ford, Go Fast Or Go Home!

Norman Bagi

Tommy, don't let them peer pressure you into going, take care of Sherry.  We got plenty, that is of course unless you can do both.

Scott Hamilton

Tell Sheri that it's a 'requirement' to attend this Stampede... It's like ommm.. Research.. Yea, Like figuring out how to best support your Pintos in the future- Paling around with everyone can only 'enhance' (well most of us anyway) your knowledge of Pintos and thusly support her Pinto...

Yea- that actually sounds good...

Steph says HEY to Sheri...

Quote from: DreamBean on December 14, 2012, 02:11:21 PM
ROFLMAO!! Scott, I am trying to plan this out. If I can keep Mama Happy, I might be able to do it. But both my cars need work, And work has gone NuTs. There is still a little time to plan. AND I gotta figure out how to SELL the idea to my better half.


Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

cabecho

man i cant wait. i wish we did the one on April since we were going to be on the road for my bd and what better way to spend your birthday than doing what you love the most.
but is cool. i cant wait. my baby is already apart getting ready. hopefully the first week of next month it be at the paint shop 
Aerodynamics is for those who can't build engines

If ford pintos are not fast then why chevy's have to use there parts to make them fast?

phils toys

want to have a mini  stampeed on the way to the stampeed   pick me and the bobcat up in pa  ok proably the whle family  if i can get the time off work
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DreamBean

ROFLMAO!! Scott, I am trying to plan this out. If I can keep Mama Happy, I might be able to do it. But both my cars need work, And work has gone NuTs. There is still a little time to plan. AND I gotta figure out how to SELL the idea to my better half.
Go Ford, Go Fast Or Go Home!

Scott Hamilton

Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

Norman Bagi

Shoot me an email John, I will get you on the list for updates and I need your information so we can keep in contact on the road, etc.  Glad to hear one of the Pinto's is coming.  Sorry ofr the rule, but the Pinto's drive up front, you can lead part of the way if it makes you feel better.  ;D  No unhappy people on the Stampede.  8)

johnbigman2011

Ok.... :-[ So I don't have to ride in the back I'll bring one of my other ones.

I sure hope my rotation falls so I can meet you guys up around Memphis!! ;D
1972 Trunk Model..... Yeller Feller
1979 Wagon Turbo.... 85 2.3 Turbo
1923 T- Bucket ...... 2.0 Pinto Powered
F 250 Redneck Lincoln .... Pinto Picker upper

Norman Bagi

John,

We had a non-pinto on the first stampede. The standing rule was to stay in the back. So I would say yes since it is Pinto Powered. But I think we would much rather see your 1972 or 1979 Pinto.

johnbigman2011

Can I bring my Pinto powered AK Miller turbo 23 T bucket??
1972 Trunk Model..... Yeller Feller
1979 Wagon Turbo.... 85 2.3 Turbo
1923 T- Bucket ...... 2.0 Pinto Powered
F 250 Redneck Lincoln .... Pinto Picker upper

Scott Hamilton

Red,
We will be traveling up to RockFord and basically doing the Stampede trip in reverse. Pass right by Memphis... When we meet up with with Norm and the gang, we'll retrace our route back to Memphis. It's so far away right now the plans are in sand. I'm kind thinking I could get my Yellow runabout going for this trip- nothing like an event as the Stampede to get you motivated.. Honestly I don't think I would have completed my Green runabout without the 40th and the Stampede hanging over me.  Good Stuff!

When it gets closer we can have some fun and plan out the reverse trip together and anyone else that wants to join us...
Looking forward to the trip already... :D

Quote from: Reddog on December 09, 2012, 07:59:29 PM
We will be in Memphis too! Hey Scott, Tammy and I can hook up with you guys somewhere and fall in line! I've been working on the red one all weekend! I am pumped up now! Finally will get to meet all of you guys! I hate that we are going to miss the gun shooting! Oh well we usually shoot gangster style anyway if we are traveling, nothing brings a family together like shooting from a moving car! Just kidding, we stop and get out! Heehee
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

righthandman

    After all the fun the last two years. You know I'm honored to ride with such a great bunch of guys  Barring any unforeseen circumstances I am in. I've added a couple of ponies to the heard since last year and hope to get a couple of guys to saddle them up and ride along.  Thanks in advance Norm, Jim and all of you who help make these happen.   
   

Norman Bagi

We are up to 19 Pinto's now!  :o   I guess we made the right move.  8) This one is looking big!  ;D

Reddog

We will be in Memphis too! Hey Scott, Tammy and I can hook up with you guys somewhere and fall in line! I've been working on the red one all weekend! I am pumped up now! Finally will get to meet all of you guys! I hate that we are going to miss the gun shooting! Oh well we usually shoot gangster style anyway if we are traveling, nothing brings a family together like shooting from a moving car! Just kidding, we stop and get out! Heehee
Everyday is a gift! Live it to the fullest with no regrets!

DreamBean

Go Ford, Go Fast Or Go Home!

Norman Bagi

That would be me.  :o   You have to bring the Pangra if Harley is bringing the Stiletto.  8)  Think of all the people that would not even know either of those was a Pinto.  When they see us rolling up and you two guys are in the lineup, heads will roll!  ???

Cookieboystoys

It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Norman Bagi

Harley!!!!  Awesome, I cannot wait to see that Stilleto! 
So far we have a Stilleto and a Pangra, man this is gonna be awesome!
In a few short hours we have Fifteen Pinto's people!
Richard, Mike, Jeff, Arnaldo, Jim, Dave, David, Harley, Brian, Norm, Louise, Scott, Tony, John and Wayne.
All have signed on to drive their cars barring any unforseen circumstances.
Looks like we have a Stampede people, I am looking forward to this years event with a newly found passion.

flash041

Looking forward to hitting the road with my Pinto friends again! Yelb, you have almost 8 months , plenty of time to get that wagon back together.
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1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

Scott Hamilton

Yea, Harley!  Can't wait to see the Stiletto in person!
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)


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