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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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On average DAILY, how many folks give you the thumbs up or other 'Yea Man' with your Pinto?

1 Person a Day-  Rubber Necker...
15 (15%)
2 Folks per Day- Pinto wanna bees
17 (17%)
3 Folks Per Day- 'I had one back in the Day'- Folks
31 (31%)
4 or more Folks per Day- 'Thumbs Up'
31 (31%)
None...
6 (6%)

Total Members Voted: 96

Dtmix

Hey Z factor! It was awesome to see you at Carlisle! Your car is coming along great!

Happy Motoring!
Dan
Happy Motoring!
Dan

Z Factor Pinto

I was stopped twice by Police Officers who couldn't believe I would drive and exploding car. I had the Sedan, so I had to educate them on the myth of the exploding Runabouts and why my sedan wasn't part of that story.

davidpinto

i get coments everywhere i stop,especially when i pop the hood.i average about 25 smiles per gallon...
D BARHAM

wrastu

I get alot of guys taking pictures of my butt (rear end) at stop lights, can see the phone above the steering wheel with them taking pictures.





And I get so many "It will look good when you get it painted" my reply is usually "What? That's original paint!"

And I never knew everybody who used to have one had a 351, 429, or 460 when they find out mine is a 302.

Judging by the number of "former" V8 Pinto owners who had them there wasn't many 4cyl or V6 owners at all.
Duty - Honor - Country - not just a catchy phrase, it's a way of life.

Lonny Candel

I had a comment from a young Soldier who didn't know what a Pinto was a couple of years ago. But the fact that it was a little blue 76 Chevette that I used to own. He said "is that a Pinto?". I said "nope, it's a Chevette".  Ironically, I traded it, and that guy sold it to another Soldier. I see it driven every now and then by him.
90 Mustang LX w/ 84 TC 2.3 / 88 TC injectors, VAM, & computer
84 Mercury Cougar LS 3.8
81 Ford Durango 3.3
81 Chevy El Camino 350 Crate

65ShelbyClone

Last weekend I took the Pinto out. Someone asked me "what car is that?"
Me: "It's a '72 Pinto"
"Wow, I don't think I've ever seen one. What year is it?"
( ::) )  Me: It's a '72.
"That's cool. And it's GREEN!
Me: It sure is.
To be fair, this person was obviously too young to recognize a Pinto and had probably only ever heard of them in horror stories legend. That's also the first time I've received a comment from someone who didn't know what a Pinto was. Why do I feel old all of a sudden?
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

Nytshaed

I just bought my first Pinto three days ago, and on the way home, we got two thumbs up and a lot of distracted people checking it out.  Very cool.

Nyt
Queen of Purple
Goddess of Glow in the Dark
Keeper of the "Green Coconut" 1972 Ford Pinto

dick1172762

Of all the race cars I've owned thru out the years, my Pintos were a magnet for story's and pictures. Of all the racing that I did I only saw 3 or 4 Pintos till I went to Summit Point in WV. There they had a class called GT-Pinto. The week end I was there, there were 27 Pinto's on the track for their race. Every thing from run of the mill to show cars. All were fast. The one that won was clocked at 142 mph. This was in 1995. Class is gone now but I see some of the cars for sale from time to time. They would be a very good buy if you wanted to go fast.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

dick1172762

Quote from: sedandelivery on September 02, 2017, 06:35:39 PM
Drive my Bobcat every week.
That's what there for! Right? Only my race cars were only driven on Sat & Sun.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

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pinto_one

Now the new rule is when you take your Pinto out for a short drive always add a hour or more to the trip , the reason is when you do stop you have tons of people asking questions about the car , like is it for sale , I had one years ago , I learned to drive in one , been years since I seen one ,  and the funny thing is my wife always asked me why I am gone for so long when I do take  out the Pinto ,  That stopped a few months ago when her car had to go to the shop for warranty and had to use it because I was out of town with my truck and did not want to take the electric car I have , yep for a few days she got thumbs up and asked all kind of questions she did not know , and when I got home a pile of phone numbers on the table from people that wanted it , so then told her rule # 2 , it not for sale , and she does not ask me any longer why it takes me a long time to drive now  ;D
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

1972 Wagon

We had a meeting in town, which is about 10 miles away, and drove the Pinto to give it some exercise. After our meeting, we went to Shell to fill-up before the post-Hurricane Harvey gas prices go into effect. The guy at the adjoining pump talked to us about the brown Pinto that he owned years ago. Then we went to Winn-Dixie. It took us 20 minutes to get from the parking lot into the store. One couple was asking us all about the wagon because "They remembered when...."  Then a man who works for Allstate Insurance came over. He had recently bought a non-running 1971 1.6L sedan. Oddly enough, like mine, it is green. He wants to work on the car with his 16 year old son. His plans are to do a turbo swap. I encouraged him to join the site. The Power of the Pinto to unite perfect strangers!
*The Original Family Car: A 1972 Pinto Wagon*
Ordered by my folks from Bunnell Motor Company, Inc., Bunnell, Florida
Delivered: June 20, 1972
Entrusted to my care: August 1976

C. M. Wolf

I do have a concern that when I finally do finish this current Pinto Project, someone's going to try & steal it,(or worse, one of the resident hillbillies in my area will hit it. I WILL insure it high enough to make 'em cry if they do!!. lol

I've barely begun to work on this Pinto restoring/rebuilding it & I get lots of "What kind of car is that?" & "Nice Pinto, I had once.."

I do wish this site would get rid of any notion of "Demo-derby", I hate the idea of people wrecking perfectly good cars that at least could be used for parts just to see things "Destroyed"!

Michael

warhead2

2 story's. When i finally able to move my project  77 cruising wagon to my friends house. A Mexican guy walking by stopped  and said Vega? After i told him what it was he said cool car.
Then few months later at my friends house. He had just bought a 89 full size blazer and had another friend over to show him and all his friend would talk about was how cool my Pinto was LOL.

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JoeBob

I get the thumbs up all the time. Last week at a major intersection, I stopped for a red light. The driver next to me got out of his can and started taking photos. I smiled but I don't think I was the subject of the picture.
77 yellow Bobcat hatchback
Deuteronomy 7:9

LongTimeFordMan

I usually get  3-5 thumbs up a week, about the same number of folks making photos and usually 2-3 notes on my windshield a month.

About 3-5 folks telling me stories of pintos tbey or their family or friends have owned per week.

Won 5 trophies at local car shows...
Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

robertwwithee

Took my pink pinto out yesterday and got more than a handful of thumbs up.  Even more than what wife's Nova gets.  Both 72 cars. 

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76hotrodpinto

I saw another pinto on the road this week. It's the first one I've seen rolling since I got my 76. It was a peach-ish colored wagon, I think it had small bumpers. Was it anyone on the board?
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

dianne

Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

74 PintoWagon

Quote from: dianne on September 13, 2015, 06:59:53 AM
And it's a wagon, a two door cool looking wagon!

Imagine that in yellow :D

Hmmmm, I don't know about that. :D
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

74 PintoWagon

Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

dianne

Quote from: dga57 on September 13, 2015, 02:55:35 AM
What did she expect?  It's orange!   ;)

And it's a wagon, a two door cool looking wagon!

Imagine that in yellow :D
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

dga57

Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

74 PintoWagon

Wife's been driving the Pinto while I work on her Falcon, and she tells me almost every day she gets compliments or thumbs up and offers to buy it...
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

blupinto

On my way home the other day someone in a late-model Ford Fsomething was caught taking pictures of my ragged little Moxie BluBelle as we merged onto the freeway in Carlsbad (California). lol At the Costco in Carlsbad a few weeks ago a guy in a big black GM SUV asked me if I wanted to sell Moxie. I said no... then he asked me what she was worth if I wanted to sell her. I told him I put a lot of blood, sweat, and tears into that car, so she's priceless... then told him to contact Pinto Barn. I hope he does. He said my ragged old Pinto is a classic.  :D
One can never have too many Pintos!

entropy

Mine definitely gets a lot of thumbs up and waves.  It also gets a lot of import guys staring intently at their gauges when I rumble up next to them at a light.  Veeeeeery focused on those gauges for some reason.  Won't break eye contact with them.  Can't imagine why..... ;D
1972 Hoonabout
SBF swap
-308 cid
-CNC ported Brodix heads
-Edelbrock Super Victor intake
-QuickFuel 750 double pumper built by Siebert
-Single stage NOS Cheater system
8" rear 4.11 posi
G-Force 5 Speed
10 point rollcage


450-ish rwhp on motor.....something a bit more than that on the spray

dianne

This is old, but with a bright yellow Pinto, it should be pretty funny to see how many looks it will get!
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

76hotrodpinto

I get a lot of people looking at the pinto, but I also get people looking around for "what is making that rumble?" It can take a second before they realize, yeah, it's that pinto. I also tend to draw attention at the gas station... fuel cell. It prompts all the classic exploding tank jokes. Yeah, hahaha. Just try to  catch this bumper, let alone hit it.
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

65ShelbyClone

I took mine to the gas station about a week ago for the first time since the turbo swap (and since my last post six months ago) and had two people stop to talk to me about it.  ;)
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

pinto_one

Every time I take out my pinto on good sunny days from the (temp controlled ) man cave, I always have people look and say they had one or two at one time and others reply that they have not seen one in years,  but glad to see it being taken care of ,
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0


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