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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #240 on: January 21, 2019, 09:34:30 AM »
By comparison, I rather like that!  Well done!!!

Dwayne :)
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #241 on: September 02, 2019, 09:00:28 AM »
Getting a start on getting it to roll easy....for the cage build.
Took the original diff & moved the spring perches inwards.
Wire wheeled all the parts & a quick sand blast, then cheap paint.
When done with the diff & springs, I'll be building a "trailer" for an old gas welder.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #242 on: September 03, 2019, 04:45:11 PM »
Looking good. Question, the car is obviously up in the air... but I can't see any visible means of support? Is it on a rotisserie?
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #243 on: September 04, 2019, 06:40:32 AM »
Yup , on a rotisserie.

I lowered it yesterday as well. Back tires are on the ground.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #244 on: February 27, 2020, 06:17:46 AM »
On jack stands now.

Set an engine block with the Milodon pan bolted to it, into the engine bay.
Bolted an aluminum bell to it....which will not work with the fire wall mads I made.

Need the Quick Time bell number 6065 to work with a T-5.
See they went up in price......$749.00 to over 1k !

So I've advertised for a used one that is out of cert (2 years cert) because if I bought a new one, it will be out of cert before it's running anyway.

Will be modifying the fire wall again.

Lots of other small jobs to get done with lack of money anyway....

Which brings up another problem.

Duplicolor bought out Plastikote.

Already had parts painted with Plastikote. Now I cannot find any paints to match the black I had been using.
Bought about 8-10 cans of different paint, different makers & none are the same.
Have not decided what I'll do yet.

Wanted some Eastwood ceramic coat stuff for headers.....ca nnot get in Canada because there is no French on the label !
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #245 on: March 01, 2020, 05:59:38 AM »
Found a place in Calgary that carries Eastwood paints & the ceramic coating for headers !

I marked out the fire wall to be cut out (again).
Trying to get the engine back far enough to get the rad behind the support......
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #246 on: March 05, 2020, 10:07:46 AM »
Need to add pictures.

The first two cable delete steering columns done



Finished the third one yesterday

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #247 on: March 05, 2020, 10:13:10 AM »
Bought a radio delete plate some time ago.
POR 15 coated & now painted , done yesterday.

I'm going to cut a pattern & take that to town as early as tomorrow & get prices on making my own.
Out of Aluminum.
Found more on ebay, but with shipping, exchange, taxes & duty it would cost me over $225.00 each !
The one pictured below cost me $15.00 !








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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #248 on: March 05, 2020, 11:53:53 AM »
The irony, - that a radio delete plate was intended as a "hole filler" for those too cheap to buy an AM radio. And yet today they are seen as prized items selling for a pretty penny.


I only have one delete plate, that for my '63 Rambler American. I think I paid $2 for it at U-Pull Parts. And yet the irony here is I have an old, 70's era Kenwood KP-500 radio that fits perfectly in the intended opening. So, maybe the radio delete doesn't get used in this case.  Irony.  ;D
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #249 on: March 05, 2020, 12:48:12 PM »
my 73 pinto is cigarette lighter delete which i think is pretty neat ..
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #250 on: March 05, 2020, 02:00:45 PM »
Quote from: HOSS429 on March 05, 2020, 12:48:12 PM
my 73 pinto is cigarette lighter delete which i think is pretty neat ..

Picture ?
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #251 on: March 05, 2020, 05:34:41 PM »
it`s my profile picture ..
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #252 on: March 05, 2020, 07:44:59 PM »
That's what kept the cost down. A base '71 Pinto was $1919.00! 1600cc engine, no radio, no cigarette lighter lol my '71 Pintoracer had 3 options, 2.0 engine, auto trans, and AM radio. Drum brakes, rubber floor mat instead of carpet and no cigarette lighter! It had a little metal delete plate! I still have it!
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #253 on: March 07, 2020, 12:02:12 PM »
I got the radio delete plate, Ford part number D4FZ-6204371-A, from nospartsltd.co m last year. Price was/is $ 22.09, I think I paid something like $ 60.00 including shipping to the Netherlands. Luckily it went below the customs radar. Still a lot of money for a tin plate but hey, sounds better then $ 225.00, and it's the original item in the original box.
Isn't this a strange world in which a piece that is worth almost nothing gets lovingly pressed, painted and boxed, then sent out to be shelved, becomes obsolete in ten years, then remains shelved and collecting dust for another 30 years, and then is allowed to fulfill its humble purpose half way across the globe... Just the idea of getting this poor tin plate out in the sun and have it travel was part of the reason I bought it.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #254 on: March 07, 2020, 01:52:27 PM »
Well, went to town yesterday & got some aluminum plate.
Then talked with a welder & he talked me out of using aluminum.
Oh well, $10.00 & will be used someplace else anyway.

I have some steel but it's thicker than I wanted. Just the same, I went ahead & built one.

OEM one weighs 288 grams / 10.2 OZ.

Mine weighs 416 grams / 14.7 OZ.

I'll blast & paint in a couple days. Was -20c this morning. Fits perfect.

Cost for mine will be less than $10.00 with paint !





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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #255 on: March 07, 2020, 01:59:24 PM »
I think in the 80's and upward the delete plate became a hot item because magazines would do articles on 60's drag cars. You know those cars with special aluminum front ends, aluminum bumpers, batteries in the trunk, gutted interiors etc.. It was at that point that the plate took on an important life of its own. That being if you had a radio delete plate (and possibly a heater delete plate too) then YOUR car was like these rare factory race cars!

I think 72DW's delete plate account runs in the same vain as my Rambler delete plate. That being the irony of it all.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #256 on: March 07, 2020, 02:02:19 PM »
Wittsend - BOSS 302 ones go for crazy money !

The OEM one I have cost me $15.00 ! LOL

I'll be making a heater delete plate as well.
Heater / defroster is required to pass a safety up here, so a small electric one will be made to fit under the dash.
Going to delete the OEM heater in this blue car.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #257 on: March 09, 2020, 05:57:28 AM »
Quote from: 71pintoracer on March 05, 2020, 07:44:59 PM
That's what kept the cost down. A base '71 Pinto was $1919.00! 1600cc engine, no radio, no cigarette lighter lol my '71 Pintoracer had 3 options, 2.0 engine, auto trans, and AM radio. Drum brakes, rubber floor mat instead of carpet and no cigarette lighter! It had a little metal delete plate! I still have it!

Something in your post about no cig lighter triggered a memory.

Dug out my ash tray & sure enough, no lighter & it has that plug thingy in place !
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #258 on: March 11, 2020, 11:39:10 AM »
Made another out of aluminum 0.050 thick.

Weight is 5.3 oz or 150 grams.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #259 on: March 19, 2020, 03:52:42 PM »
More progress with the dash mods.
I didn't drill for the speedo yet. Want to get it first so I get the hole the right size.
I had some antique lights I decided to use in this car.
The upper small ones are red , for warning lights.
Lower ones are green & are for signal lights.
Need 5 gauges for what I want to install.
The panels will be sanded & painted a trim black.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #260 on: March 21, 2020, 08:28:34 AM »
No idea how / why, blew my right knee out & cannot get out to the shop.
So things on hold for now....
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #261 on: March 21, 2020, 11:10:01 AM »
Feel for you. I have been on ladders trimming trees. I did something??? to my knee. Not obvious at first but developed over time. It has been nearly a month now and no better. I can walk OK, but move j u s t the wrong way and ouch! Hope you get better.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #262 on: March 24, 2020, 07:18:46 AM »
Getting better fairly fast. Moving around helps.

Went to the shop, easy day planned......y a, right ! LOL

Re-cut the fire wall. I want to get the engine far enough back to put the radiator where it belongs.

Drop a 302w block in & a bell/ T-5 trans.

More cutting need in a couple small fire wall areas & the tunnel.

Today I'll put heads & intake / carb on so I can plan on what / where to cut. As well as a set of Headman Headers.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #263 on: March 24, 2020, 03:50:25 PM »
Are you using swap headers and a MII pan or custom made pieces? When l put the 5.0 in my '71 the pan and headers dictated how far back the engine could go. I did move the firewall back a few inches though. Glad you're on the mend!
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #264 on: March 24, 2020, 06:05:32 PM »
I always use the 30925 Milodon pans: https://www.milodon.com/oil-pans/ford-oil-pans.php

I have (2) sets of the old school Headman Headers.

They are not going to work - tested today. As you know, the frame rails narrow as they go back.

I may make a custom set.....or look into the ones people have used - shorties put on backwards ?

I like the idea of making my own & know I can do it......
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #265 on: March 24, 2020, 08:34:46 PM »
Is the Milodon pan better than the MII? As far as moving the engine back? I think my early headers are Hedman, (for sale btw} 3 piece and 2 of the tubes went under the crossmember. But l have no doubt you can make anything you want!

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #266 on: March 25, 2020, 07:56:44 AM »
Sounds like yours are the Hookers ? Back two tubes go through the inner fenders & down by the control arms....like the ones made for my B2 ?



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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #267 on: March 25, 2020, 07:58:40 AM »
The Milodon pan is 8 QT + the filter.
The back goes down sharply & allows for more room to go backwards.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #268 on: March 25, 2020, 08:06:41 AM »
I can still move the engine back 1.5" to 2" . Where the T-5 shifter is right now.



Headers on the left is up against the rack & touches the cross member, due to being moved back so far. I had test fit them on the white car while the B2 was away getting built, and they fit OK.



I have more to cut out yet.








I wasn't going to do this much (and for the 2nd time) but due to being off work & no sight of when I'll return to work.......plu s I want to try and get the radiator BEHIND the rad support.....or at least have more room for the electric fan(s) than the white car.

Engine is just put together from spare parts & not the one that will go in it. Not the Bell I'll be getting as well. The Quick Time bell I'll be using is over $700 now & would be out dated (SFI) before the car is on the road again.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #269 on: March 25, 2020, 11:46:37 AM »
On the early headers the two back tubes go down beside the inner frame rail, the front two go under the crossmember.  The Hookers l have for the '77 have two tubes going out through the inner fender wells like the ones you have but the other tubes go inside of the frame rails not under the crossmember. I cut the inner fender wells and radiator support out, the cage is going to come through the firewall and l'm using a motor plate not frame motor mounts so that gives a lot more clearance. l'm moving the firewall as well so your pics are a big help! Can you get a picture of the pan in the car?
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