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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Norman Bagi

I have seen the models on the engines and the books on the seats.  I don't think it is a problem to display that stuff.  If you are concerned, call Carlisle events for a confirmation.  I am sure you can put it out around the car at least.  I have seen boards describing what is in the cars, and I myself used to have windshield displays and a book of what was doen to the car and no one told me to get rid of it.

:welcome:

phils toys

Quote from: blupinto on April 10, 2011, 10:39:34 PM
Do they let you display anything in your car at Carlisle?
no YOU  can  not display anything there.
Quote from: blupinto on April 10, 2011, 11:35:23 PMPppppppppt! (razberry)! lol Smarty pants! :lol:






yes you can display anything you want  just remember it is a family show. see you very soon 
phil
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

blupinto

Pppppppppt! (razberry)! lol Smarty pants! :lol:
One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

blupinto

Pintos come in black and white too you know... look at Little Joe Cartwright's horse. lol ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

Quote from: blupinto on April 10, 2011, 11:23:01 PM
HEY! Those are Pinto seat-covers! lol  :lol:

If you say so! :rolleye:

Dwayne :lol:
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blupinto

HEY! Those are Pinto seat-covers! lol  :lol:
One can never have too many Pintos!

blupinto

Here's the also-rans. The pink T-bird was pulled over by CHP as I was headed home.  :P


This gold Mustang looks like the one I keep seeing on episodes of Adam-12! lol
One can never have too many Pintos!

blupinto

Some more notables... Bob Eicholz's vinyl-top begged to be touched by me... but I was good. :angel:

The Squire was gorgeous... but the emblems were missing. :-\


Don't you love Emily's board!?
One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

Hey, I like the cow seatcovers!!! :lol:
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blupinto

Some out-of-this -world Pinto pix:
One can never have too many Pintos!

blupinto

Here's some pictures from today: Ruby's display. lol
One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

I don't really know for sure, but I can't imagine anyone stopping you.  It will be interesting to see the billboard... I only saw it in pictures, as I had it shipped directly to you from the seller.

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

blupinto

That's the plan! That's Ruby in the picture, you know! I would be remiss in leaving it home. Do they let you display anything in your car at Carlisle?
One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

So you took the mini-billboard to Knotts with you?  I suppose it would make for something interesting to display with Ruby.  Are you bringing it to Carlisle? 

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

blupinto

Well another nice spring day- perfect for looking at cars and hanging out with the Pinto Peeps!

The weather was about as perfect as it could be. Warm, but not hot... and just enough of a breeze to keep it comfortable.  I enjoyed the company of the Pinto community as well as people who were interested in Ruby's tiny engine, our upcoming trip to Pennsylvania, and even Ford Folks with non-Pintos, like the lady who had the Ford of Australia Falcons (both pick-up style and Mad Max-type) and a nice guy  with his Hawaiian Mustang II. Most of all I loved the fellowship with Leonard, who taught me how to appreciate a roast beef and swiss cheese sandwich.  Fred and Joy kept me laughing with their stories of being caught stealing a Pinto Street sign.  Emily and I shared info on Pinto memorabilia (Dwayne, she LOVED that mini billboard! lol)  Also, a huge thank you to Vonkysmeed for the cd of Pinto songs. You are awesome!!! Your little boy is so cute!

I want to apologize for not making it to the after-show dinner. I got hopelessly lost, and I had no one's phone number or directions to the restaurant. The running around gave me a headache, so I ended up heading back to the ranch.  :(

All in all, a swell time was (I believe) had by all. Pictures to come soon.  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

Fred Morgan

Must had snowed here in Anaheim too last night.  Fred   ;D
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vonkysmeed

Quote from: Fred Morgan on April 09, 2011, 12:08:49 PM
We are trying to get there !

Snow in Morgan Hill???

I knew it was cold, but Damn!!!
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Heads from 69 Mercury Cougar
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Fred Morgan

We are trying to get there !
Fred Morgan- Missing from us...
January 20th 1951-January 6th 2014

Beloved PCCA Parts Supplier and Friend to many.
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Srt

Quote from: vonkysmeed on April 08, 2011, 09:57:00 PM
Have to check it out sometime, just not this weekend.  Wife's birthday party at our house that I am hosting.  Be bad form to not be there.

gotta take care of the home life 1st.  if you don't there may not BE a home life.
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

entropy

Quote from: vonkysmeed on April 08, 2011, 09:57:00 PM
Have to check it out sometime, just not this weekend.  Wife's birthday party at our house that I am hosting.  Be bad form to not be there.


True enough!  Well, it goes every Saturday at the same time.  Let me know if you ever want to go...after all, how much fun would it be for there to be a cruise night where Camaros get outnumbered by Pintos?
1972 Hoonabout
SBF swap
-308 cid
-CNC ported Brodix heads
-Edelbrock Super Victor intake
-QuickFuel 750 double pumper built by Siebert
-Single stage NOS Cheater system
8" rear 4.11 posi
G-Force 5 Speed
10 point rollcage


450-ish rwhp on motor.....something a bit more than that on the spray

vonkysmeed

Quote from: entropy on April 08, 2011, 09:35:17 PM
There's also a cruise night at the Signal Hill Bob's Big Boy on Saturday ( 1898 Willow Street 4-7 pm) for those who don't want to be up quite that early.  ;-)

Have to check it out sometime, just not this weekend.  Wife's birthday party at our house that I am hosting.  Be bad form to not be there.
73 Pinto Runabout
351w from 74 galaxie
Heads from 69 Mercury Cougar
82 Mustang GT SROD Transmission and driveshaft
Mustang II rear end with Fairmont 3rd member
6 point cage

entropy

Quote from: vonkysmeed on April 08, 2011, 08:20:13 PM
Have posted in the shows section, but thought I would ask here too.  Anyone local (or here early) interested in going to Donut Derelicts tomorrow morning in Huntington Beach?  If not, see everyone on Sunday at carrows

There's also a cruise night at the Signal Hill Bob's Big Boy on Saturday ( 1898 Willow Street 4-7 pm) for those who don't want to be up quite that early.  ;-)
1972 Hoonabout
SBF swap
-308 cid
-CNC ported Brodix heads
-Edelbrock Super Victor intake
-QuickFuel 750 double pumper built by Siebert
-Single stage NOS Cheater system
8" rear 4.11 posi
G-Force 5 Speed
10 point rollcage


450-ish rwhp on motor.....something a bit more than that on the spray

vonkysmeed

Have posted in the shows section, but thought I would ask here too.  Anyone local (or here early) interested in going to Donut Derelicts tomorrow morning in Huntington Beach?  If not, see everyone on Sunday at carrows
73 Pinto Runabout
351w from 74 galaxie
Heads from 69 Mercury Cougar
82 Mustang GT SROD Transmission and driveshaft
Mustang II rear end with Fairmont 3rd member
6 point cage

Pintopower

Ok, we are all set for Carrows in the morning and we have located a place with a large parking lot! Ciro's Pizza is the new place!

On Sunday we should all try to get to the restaurant by 7:00. It takes about 1 hour to get through breakfast and the other things we do at breakfast.
                 
Sunday: 7:00 am meet at Carrows for breakfast and fun and games/give aways.
              8:30 am caravan to the show.
              3:00 pm show is over.
              3:30-45 Ciro's Pizza


Here is a link for the mapquest map to where Carrows is.

Carrows
8650 Beach Boulevard
Buena Park, CA 90620-3954
(714) 826-4280

http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Buena+Park&state=CA&address=8650+Beach+Blvd&zipcode=90620


Ciro's Pizza
6969 LaPalma Ave
Buena Park, CA 90620
(714) 523-3381

I hope to see everyone at breakfast! I have a HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT!

If any one has a question, please email turbopinto72 or me.
Alberto
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

Fred Morgan

Becky, I am not sure I have parts in the motor home.  Fred
Fred Morgan- Missing from us...
January 20th 1951-January 6th 2014

Beloved PCCA Parts Supplier and Friend to many.
Post your well wishes,
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blupinto

Is there any Pinto Peeps living in the vicinity of the show? I was hoping for a crash pad so I could volunteer for the bag-stuffing and not have to make two trips to Buena Park this weekend. I'll buy a couple pizzas or KFC or...???  I'm not beringing the dog this time.  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

Pintopower

****FREE PARTS****


I am giving away a set of '75-'80 Sedan seats. they are blue and in good shape. All vinyl. Please let me know if you want them. Otherwise they are going on the curb.  I also have a Merc. hatch for free. I also want to get rid of a sedan roof rack ($40) and a 2.3 pinto header ($60). I cannot bring the hatch or seats to the show but you can get them at my house (18 miles from there) on saturday or even friday night. Let me know. DO NOT REPLY HERE. Please call me at 626 221 7681. Thanks
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

entropy

Quote from: vonkysmeed on April 07, 2011, 02:57:58 PM
is registration closed?  If so, show up at Carrows anyway and talk to me before the show.

Yeah, it closed more than a week ago. 
1972 Hoonabout
SBF swap
-308 cid
-CNC ported Brodix heads
-Edelbrock Super Victor intake
-QuickFuel 750 double pumper built by Siebert
-Single stage NOS Cheater system
8" rear 4.11 posi
G-Force 5 Speed
10 point rollcage


450-ish rwhp on motor.....something a bit more than that on the spray


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