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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Question: rear end for 77 wagon

Started by Cookieboy, July 20, 2006, 09:45:10 PM

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goodolboydws

About that "clunk" going into reverse.

If it's not from:
1. the vacuum modulator being bad/adjusted incorrectly and/or
2. a fluid leak
3. a partially clogged trans filter, (sometimes a new one will clog quickly, if the old fluid was bad enough and wasn't completely drained from the convertor)
It could be simply from
4. the engine idle speed being set too high.

Cookieboystoys

Thanks Bill for all the info and help,

Either him or I will be checking into the tranny leak, If I can figure it out I will but if I need help he gets a call. I just looked to see where it was coming from and didn't even bother to check bolts on the pan... I had other more important issues to deal with at the time. The pinto didn't run and I needed to put the timing belt and distributor on correctly... long story but I did it and now it is running again  ;D

I think I'll go with your advise on the rear end... Mustang II rear and driveshaft from a 4spd pinto... scrap the maverick rear... I'll look for more detailed info later if that project becomes necessary.

I always had to drop the exhaust to swap starters... didn't know there was an easier way... Thanks  ;D

and I'll check the section on headers...

Thanks again for the info/help
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

77turbopinto

Quote from: Cookieboy on July 22, 2006, 08:46:43 AM
... He did a tranny service (filter and fluid) and ... and something is leaking on the tranny (I think it's the regulator thingy) and such...

I would have him see if he did something wrong or missed something.


Quote from: Cookieboy on July 22, 2006, 08:46:43 AM
...If the Maverick swap is going to be as hard or easy as the Mustang swap then I might as well get it...

You did read where the 8" Mustang II/Pinto rear is a DIRECT BOLT IN, and the Maverick 8" is NOT, right? You said you are looking for the easest way, the Mustang II rear is the way to go. Yes, the work to DO THE SWAP is the same, but you won't have to make any OTHER modifications. You should swap the driveshaft, but with one that is a DIRECT BOLT IN too for either rear. With an auto tranny car with a 6.75" rear, all you should need is a driveshaft from a 4spd Pinto with a 6.75" rear to do the 8" swap. There is more info in the FAQ section too.


Quote from: Cookieboy on July 22, 2006, 08:46:43 AM
... starter is bad and am going to do the header/exhaust replacement as long as the starter has to be swapped...


The starter comes out if you un-bolt the steering rack (both bolts through the crossmember) and drop the right side down (just the mount bolts, all else can stay put). Check out the thread in the FAQ section about header installs.

Bill
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Cookieboystoys

I really haven't been able to drive my Pinto  :( a few cruises around the area but that's about it. To many problems to even list and I have had a lot of work done already. The mechanic who did most of the work is the one who threw the idea of the rear end out there when I asked about the "clunk." I would think Ujoints first as well but for some reason he didn't think so. He did a tranny service (filter and fluid) and checked for slop in the drive shaft but he also didn't think or look into the clunk because of it's current running condition. I have a few other areas that have to be addressed before I can dig into the "clunk" when it goes into reverse. Such as... carb/timing still needs tweeking, starter is bad and am going to do the header/exhaust replacement as long as the starter has to be swapped, front calipers are going to be changed and something is leaking on the tranny (I think it's the regulator thingy) and such... I'm sure I'll find more as I get to digging into this project, things keep popping up but am getting close to running out of thinks that "could be fixed."

If the Maverick swap is going to be as hard or easy as the Mustang swap then I might as well get it. I know it's a project (I want the 8") for a later date and the Maverick one is pulled vs. the Mustang one I have may not work due to where it is sitting and if I do get it out then it has to be pulled... I do want to do some preformance upgrades... just not major ones.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

77turbopinto

Check the u-joints, might not be the rear. MIGHT be the tranny too, but doubltful. The u-joints are very easy and fairly cheap to do. That is where I would start. Pull the driveshaft and inspect the joints. If they are bad they will be notchy, VERY tight, or have slop.

Does the rear make noise on the highway or in turns? If not is SHOULD be OK.

The hard part about the Mav. rear, or any other, is the swap itself. The very minor issue of slotting the shock plate holes and working the perches is easy. IMHO if you can swap the rear, you can alter the Mav. one.

Bill
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Cookieboystoys

I'm a novice at this rear end stuff and don't really understand all the little details...

I jumped to early on interest in buying one and now the seller has it pulled for me even though I was just expressing interest in it and asked when/if it could be pulled. looks like I may end up with it as part of deal where I'm getting another pinto + the rear end and don't want any hard feelings. I want the other pinto for a driver so I can relax a bit on my current project. I wanna drive a pinto again!!! and have been rushing my wagon project when I really need to slow down and take my time to do it the way I want.

It just looks like the Maverick rear end would be more difficult to install vs. mustang II and If I do it has to be as easy as possible... I don't have the skills or talent to fab anything if needed for the swap.

I'm not looking for a rear end for 4 cyl turbo or V8. If I do anything at all it will be a mild build to stock 2300 such as cam, lifters, headers... and the only reason to consider the swap at this time is that I was told the rear end in my car "could be" the cause of the "clunk" when shifting from drive to reverse.

It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

77turbopinto

You have all the info I can give you about the Mav. rear.

For ease of install, go with the Pinto/StangII rear.

Keep in mind that ANY 8" rear swap needs a driveshaft swap (or at least look at it). The u-joint mount is about an inch forward.

What are the gears in both? Maybe the Mav. rear has better ones. GET BOTH if you can.

There is no cost effective way to fix the 6.75, or make it better. They will hold up with the stock Pinto power if you are careful with them.  MUCH cheaper to get a good used 8".

Bill

BTW: #3 is correct. I was talking about the Maverick rear not having the rubber.
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Cookieboystoys

I did find some info from a previous post (see below) and it does leave me to believe that the Maverick rear end would be a bad choice... could someone w/more knowledge than me please confirm. I'm not building a hot rod and most likely will just beef up the standard 2.3 that is already in there.

Also seems I may be having minor issues w/my rear end so either a rebuild or replacement will be needed. I figure a swap w/the least issues would be my best choice and it would be nice to have the 8"

I need an answer today Friday, 7/21/2006... after that doesn't matter... I have to decide today if I want the Maverick rear.

Thanks

Quote from previous post....

Started by turbopinto72, Message by 77turbopinto
Maverick 8" rear axle info:

1) They are 5 lug, 4.5".

2) They are about .5" narrower overall than the Pinto 8" rear (drum to drum). IF the shafts are installed in a Pinto housing, they will engage the splines .25" less for each side; This is something to think about BEFORE doing. I have a pair of .25 wheel spacers to put it at the stock pinto track width.

3) The perches are not set-up to use the rubber/block assy.s.

*** NOTE!
Number 3 is in-correct.
The rubber perch is perfect for the early Pinto!!!!
From Pintony

4) Like the 67/68 Mustang ones (and others), the perches are narrower, but the outside edge of the them are about the same distance apart as the Pinto perches (about 45"), on-center they are different.

5) The bearing retainer plates on the Mav. are the same as the ones on the 67/68 Mustang, but NOT the same as the 8" Pinto ones. My plan was to put the shafts in a Pinto rear, but I would have to pull the bearings off the shafts to switch the retainer plates, and along with the spline isssue, I just re-worked the perches like I did on the 67/68 rear to install it.

6) The tubes do not taper, they are 3" to the brake plate. You will have to use the Mav. shock plates and bolts, or slot the holes in the Pinto blocks and plates (like I did to run the MII rear sway bar).

7) They take the same axle seals (two parts places told me otherwise, but they were the same as the 68-73 Mustang and the Pinto 8" rears).

They need drums and wheels with the BIG center hole. The drums from my 68 stang rear would not fit (good thing the Mav. ones were in good shape, as a matter of fact they had more meat on them). They need rims with the 2.75" center hole, the same size as what is needed to go on a Granada rotor.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

Quick Question... need answer asap please....

I have a 77 wagon and have the opportunity to pick up a pulled 8 inch rear out of a maverick (not sure what year)

will I have any major problems swapping it in or would there be a better choice...

for example an 8 inch out of a 76 mustang II (which I also have access to)

It's all about the Pintos! Baby!


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