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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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PintoRoyL

What are the odds? I found an '85 XR4TI at one of my local wrecking yard locations, and made a run up to check it out. The head had been removed years ago, but the exhaust manifold with turbo was still there, and also a two part intake manifold/throttle body. I grabbed those as quickly as I could get them out, then him-hawd around trying to decide if I wanted the T9 transmission. Shelbyclone commented that they are not as strong as the T5, but in the end I decided that if it were an easier swap, I would go ahead and pull it out. I pulled the flywheel and clutch also since the 2.3L motor I already have has an automatic transmission. I pulled the computer out, but did not get the harness because it has been hacked and cut.
A big THANKS, to all of you for the info you have been sharing. Will update as I work on this project.

65ShelbyClone

Two other options are to change the cluster gear to match the input shaft (in other words, tear the trans completely apart and invest a lot of money) or look for a T9 out of a Merkur. A T9 is based on the Pinto 4spd and doesn't require cutting or fabrication AFAIK. The problem is that they're even harder to find than a good 4cyl T5 and they're not as strong either. I spent a few months looking in SoCal and saw a single one covered in grease and "might" need a rebuild for $600.

I remember when people would keep blowing-up their T5s instead of upgrading because they could find a cheap junkyard T5 on any given weekend. Long gone are those days.
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

Wittsend

65SC is correct. It is just not swapping out the input shaft because the 1st gear is attached to it. The easiest solution is finding a 85-93 2.3 T-5. And if your fortunate the bellhousing will be the one you need. Mine came from '86 Turbo Coupe.


But as I mentioned above these are 28-36 year old transmissions. I did my swap back in 2008. At that time I would often find three to five T/C's in the two Self Serve yards in the San Fernando Valley area outside Los Angeles. It seemed like within 6 months I was fortunate to find one to three, then at times one infrequently and by 2015 I don't think I found another one even though I went once a month. So, if a 'large population/cars lasting longer' area like Los Angeles has long been depleted it must be a lesser chance in smaller markets.


I say this somewhat hesitantly. The V-8 T-5 and proper adaptation MIGHT be an easier route. Obviously the shaft is too short but fabrication of an extended throw out bearing..., or a hard press fit on the end of the input shaft of a shaft extender is at least something to ponder. The problems I potentially see are the extended throwout bearing being encroaching on the clutch disc center hub. With a shaft extender the the stability might be an issue. The reason I said MIGHT (above) is that I have been looking for a V-8 T-5 for my Sunbeam Tiger and those older Mustangs like the T/C's aren't around much..., if not at all. I'm not trying to be the voice of gloom just stating the realities. If you feel inclined to overcome those, all the best.

65ShelbyClone

Quote from: PintoRoyL on April 22, 2021, 08:30:41 AM
The input shaft is different for sure, but that can be changed easy enough in just a couple of hours on the bench while the trans is already out. It would be primarily the length of the shaft that I need to know,  that would tell me whether I must use an adapter/spacer plate between the eng/trans.
Yeah, but the input shaft is part of the first gear ratio. You'll need one that matches the current ratio (whatever that may be) and fits a 2.3, which may or may not exist. There were at least three different versions of the 2.3 input shaft alone; the one in mine has a 4.03 first gear. '87-88 had a 3.97 and '85-86 SVOs had a 3.50. The only bellhousing adapter I know of is one that adapts a pre-'94 5.0 V8 T5 to the 2.3 block.

A note on shifter positions: the only T5 that doesn't require cutting the shifter hole is a Camaro version that Wittsend mentioned. The problem there is that the rear mount/crossmember needs more fabrication due to being on a weird angle. I think there are also some late '70s direct-pull bellhousings that fit on T5s so the cable doesn't hit the front crossmember, but I don't recall what the engineering numbers are.
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

PintoRoyL

All good points to ponder, thank you. I did check on some of the part numbers, primarily for the input shaft. The input shaft is different for sure, but that can be changed easy enough in just a couple of hours on the bench while the trans is already out. It would be primarily the length of the shaft that I need to know,  that would tell me whether I must use an adapter/spacer plate between the eng/trans. The trans/rear gearing, as you said, is a must to keep in mind also. I did the input shaft swap on a t5 from a '92 S10 pickup connected to a Chev 307 that I am running in my daily driver GMC Caballero.

Wittsend

Good that you mentioned the 83-86 bellhousing for the bell-crank cable hook up. It skipped my mind even though I had to get one for my '88. A minor point but there is the need to get the clutch cable over the crossmember. Some just use various construction framing brackets from the big box home improvement store. I made up a mount that fits in the existing hole. I designed it with an anti rotate (visible below the nut) incase it ever came loose using the existing (single) hole.

Lastly seating position is different for everyone but the stock T/C shift had me punching the dash and a very awkward motion. I cut and elevated the shifter into two or three parts (took numerous try's before it felt anywhere near normal) and then rewelded it. It still isn't as good as it was in the T/C but it is a WHOLE lot better than before.

To quote my mother in law "Oh, Yea..., and another thing....." The trans mount needs to be reversed and holes slotted. I don't know if the manual early cars used the same round rubber mount but I am still using mine from the C-4.  "Oh, Yea..., and another-other thing....." the driveshaft will probably not be the proper length. I was fortunate. My '73 C-4 / Auto trans / 6-3/4" shaft fit perfectly when I went to the T-5 and an 8" rearend. I'd find what ratios are in the rear end before jumping to a T-5. They could be 2.79 and then it would surely bog and negate the swap. I run 3.40's on 13" tires and it is just about right. If the car will have tall tires 3.55 might be better.


PintoTim2

I would not use a Mustang T5 due to the mentioned 1st gear ratio.  Besides a good one is HARD to find used.  Turbocoupe T5 trans is the way to go - but the 83-86 Turbocoupe bellhousing is the one you need for a cable clutch (got mine on EvilBay).  I have found it easier to find a turbocoupe T5 since the Mustang crowd doesn't want them.  The flywheels are the same dimensions for all the 2.3.   The "2000 MY" T5 might be for a V6 ??  I don't know what the input shaft and bolt pattern looks like and if it will fit a 2.3L bellhousing.

Wittsend


I don't know about the flywheel. Often when there is a question I will look up associated parts (in this case clutch disc, pressure plate) and see if they vary over the years span. It isn't a foolproof method but it would give you some idea.


The 2.3 used a specific T-5 noted for its 1st gear (some say 3.97 others 4.01). It has a LONGER input shaft than other versions. The V-8 version had a shorter shaft. I don't know if an extended pilot bearing is available..., or would work. There is caution regarding the throwout bearing possibly hitting an extended bearing (when depressed). A proper disc size/spline might be an issue too. The T-5 after 1995 was only available with the V6. The 94/95 T-5's had a longer (but not proper for a 2.3) input shaft. Other issues were an electric speedometer, in bellhousing hydraulic slave cylinder and flange instead of slip yoke driveshaft connection at the transmission.


It gets even crazier when you start to look at the GM T-5's (Nissan used it for a few years too). GM canted the whole transmission at an angle. And at one point GM went to the Ford belhousing pattern. At least in V-8 applications the GM T-5 was predominantly a 2.95 1st gear trans but they didn't go world class until 1988.


Basically you need an 85 (beginning of world class) to 93 2.3/T-5. But the newest of those in now 28 years old and can be as old as 36 years. Happy Hunting. When I did my Turbo Coupe drivetrain swap back in 2008 it made sense. I had already owned the donor car for 10 years. But I think today some of the more modern engine are likely a better swap. Unfortunately oil pan to crossmember and adaptable transmissions are an issue. And the most likely transmissions are truck transmissions.


https://www.moderndriveline.com/the-many-different-faces-of-the-t5/

PintoRoyL

I haven't done much yet with the Pinto, except look at it in the driveway. With spring in the air, I got the lawn mower going for this year, a few branches trimmed from some of the trees, and then the battery on my daily suddenly went bad. Most of the yardwork chores are now at a sustainable level, though those dandelions are fast growers this time of year. My thoughts yesterday were, "why don't I just drop the replacement 2.3L in, and get it running as a naturally aspirated engine, then see what other systems need work after sitting for almost 25 years". That strategy would get the car drivable while I read to learn more about fuel injection and turbo charged systems. Since my daily ('78 GMC Caballero) is my main project, the Pinto is less important to my day to day life, and going the simpler build route at this time would be the way to keep me motivated in the shorter term.
Some questions for those of you who own 2.3turbo motors: 1) Can I pull my existing flywheel from a '78 2.3 non turbo to use on an '87-88 turbo engine? 2) Are there any changes to a 2000 Mustang World Class T5 trans to be made before bolting to an '87-88 2.3turbo Tbird engine?
I appreciate responses, and advice, that those of you who are more familiar with your Pinto's are, than I am with mine.
I am aware that I will need a pilot bushing, and a bellhousing swap. Any other things to expect, or watch out for? Maybe a hydraulic clutch conversion?

65ShelbyClone

That's the connector. I can't see the injector.
Black injectors are usually aftermarket replacements.
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

PintoRoyL

65ShelbyClone,
I thank you for the identification info.
I have been trying to post some pics of the injectors. They look like black ones to me.

65ShelbyClone

If your engine has an IHI turbo, top-mount intercooler, valve cover with a dip in the middle, and brown-top injectors, then it is definitely an '87-88 T-bird version. Longblocks were all the same from '83-89 except for one of the intake manifold bolt holes.
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

PintoRoyL

Thank you wittsend for the links. Good article, well writen.

71pintoracer, thank you for the tio on the wiring harness. I will look into that .

71pintoracer

There is also a forum here dedicated to turbo swaps. My car has a Ron Francis wiring harness and is way easier than trying to figure out a factory harness.
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

Wittsend

Hello, Welcome. The T-Bird Turbo Coupes were from 1983-88. So, you likely have an 87-88 engine. They were better in that they have bigger injectors, bigger VAM, were intercooled and rated at 190 HP (Manual). They have a smaller turbo (quicker spool up time) but some think it gives up too soon on air. The LA-2, LA-3 were the Manual designated computers for the 87-88 cars (Don't know the Automatics). Unfortunately the 87-88 wiring harness is a total mess. As I recall you can use other harnesses (The Merkur was stand alone) BUT.. ("Warning Will Robinson"), they are NOT pinned the same!!! So, you have to get that right. Remember even the newest Turbo Coupe (88) is now 33 years old and many of these parts aren't so easy to find. Others have used aftermarket computers.

Turbo Ford (if it is still out there), NATO and The Ranger Station are good sites for Turbo stuff. Being your car is a '74 it is a lot easier than a 71-73 fitment wise. I have a 2 part post titled "So you want to build a turbo Pinto" but frankly a lot of it is the difficulties of adapting the 2.3T into a 71-73 car. Regardless http://www.fordpinto.com/general-pinto-talk/so-you-want-to-build-a-turbo-pinto-part-1/msg76893/#msg76893 All the best in your build.

PintoRoyL

OK, I see that they do not show in preview, even though they are there. Those two pics were from July 3, 2020 when I drug the car out of the garage for the first time in nearly 24 years.
These two are from last week when I started this thread.

PintoRoyL

Unable to post/preview photos. I have reduced pics to less than 1mb each. Can someone help me with instructions for attaching photos. Is there a required number of posts before I am able to include photos?

PintoRoyL

Hello Pinto friends. I originally found and joined this site a couple of years ago, but was not ready to do a build project on my '74 Runabout. I have owned this car since November 1 of 1981. For the most part, it was a good and reliable vehicle for me. Some time around 83-84 one of the cylinder walls cracked, necessitating an engine replacement. While I was at it, I converted from an automatic to manual transmission. Shortly thereafter, I also had the car painted white, whereas it was originally an avocado green color (seats and headliner remain green to this day). In 1988, I drove from southern California to the area around Seattle, Washington. It burned a piston in 1996 and I pushed it into the garage where it has not moved from until I cleaned the garage last summer. I recently acquired a 2.3L turbo with automatic transmission that I am looking forward to installing. I have never owned a  turbo vehicle before, so I will be asking a lot of questions and learning about both turbo chargers and also fuel injection.  The engine reportedly came from an 88-89 Tbird. It looks complete, but without wiring harness and computer.


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