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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Pinto Owners, Car Shows, Do you Attend?

Started by Scott Hamilton, September 21, 2012, 12:58:46 PM

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Of the Pinto owners who visit our site, Do you attend Car shows, Crusis or Local meets?

Yes, and I bring my Pinto
60 (61.9%)
Yes, but the Pinto stay's at home
12 (12.4%)
Yes, but only Pinto events with or without my Pinto
2 (2.1%)
No, infrequently I may go to a few in a couple of years.
22 (22.7%)
No, Never gone to one, Not intrested.
1 (1%)

Total Members Voted: 94

davidpinto

they have a car show once a month here in liberty,lots of really nice rides,i got to all of the cruise ins at pettys garage.when i pull in, love to see all those heads turn.the 2012 stampede was great glad we went.
D BARHAM

dga57

Quote from: 72DutchWagon on August 20, 2016, 02:50:54 PM

Dwayne, you are getting me curious with your new project!
 

If all goes according to plan, it will be coming to full fruition within the next thirty days!  And this time, computer ignorance aside, pictures WILL be posted!!!

Dwayne ;D
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

72DutchWagon

I did have a good time at the last car show I went to, was just checking the website of the club that organized it,
and they have a terrific overview of their show at the main page of their website; www.taunusmclub.be .
So here's the contest, find Donkey on this page!
I do think there is different kinds of shows though, I don't like the "fill town square in between the carnival and the harvest fair" kind of shows, that draw the same knowledgeable public as the other events.
I also don't like the posh vintage car events with owners on a champagne hangover that are actually going to drive their polished classics in the wild, endanger fellow road users, and call this a rally.
But that's just my personal opinion, there's shows to suit anybody's taste, be pickey!
Dwayne, you are getting me curious with your new project!
 

robertwwithee

I go rarely and it's just to look around, not necessarily to enter.  I'd rather drive and smile when photos are taken of car on freeway.  Not the safest thing I witnessed but not bright either on other drivers part

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dga57

I understand... I've been there myself.  What I have going on at the moment however, has me more excited than I've been in years!  I'm looking forward to doing some car shows starting, probably, next Spring.


Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

r4pinto

Quote from: dga57 on July 20, 2016, 08:09:11 AM
For the most part, I've been away from car shows altogether for about five years.  Not from lack of interest; my life just sort of got turned upside down and inside out right after Carlisle in 2011.  Priorities changed.  Now, having worked through all that, my first car show attendance since 2011 turned out to be Carlisle 2016.  I wasn't there long because the weather was miserable, but long enough to reconnect with some old friends, see some really nice Fords of all descriptions, and re-ignite my fever.  I have a project going on in the background that I've been reluctant to discuss yet, but will do so soon... it's all coming together... that will mark my renewed participation in car shows.  Looking forward to it!


Dwayne :)
Still haven't gotten the bug back. Haven't had a reason to give a damn unfortunately. There is a car show I'm aiming for in a month. We will see if it happens.


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Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

robertwwithee

Don't make many due to work schedule and not fond of paying for people to check out my car.  Care less about a trophy unlike father with 60k 57 chevy.

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Wittsend

Here in So. Cal. we have car shows- ad nauseam. It seems like every school, church, or "good cause" has a car show any more as a fund raiser.  Throw in the the "cars & coffee" EVERY Saturday and pretty soon seeing the same cars over and over again is like walking through a dealers lot.

  What we don't have enough of is car shows with a swap area. And, sadly those that do have been significantly seen a reduction in participation. Somewhat local to me are the Mopar Spring/Fall Flings.  They are billed as "The Largest Mopar Car event West of the Mississippi.  I've attend these events for over 20 years now (lots of generic parts to be found, not just Mopar). Especially since the economy tanked the swap area is about 50%-60% of what it use to be. And, more and more it is either becoming  re-pop items or very obscure items few would need (dual plug Hemi valve covers) that the seller wants ridiculous money for.  Often the latter is someone who made a boatload of cash in their 20's-40's but as they approach 60 their income has dropped significantly and that 1980's $1,000 set of valve covers would seem to them (but few..., if any others) to still command a sizable return on the investment.

A month ago there was a greater L.A. Ford/Mustang show on a very prominent property ($10's of millions of dollars).  I was rather surprised that the volume of cars was limited given the population of the drawing area.  I could have seen everything quite well in half an hour.  And, I overheard some of the organizers stating if they came back next year it would be in the $10,000 range for the venue!!!

So, while I still appreciate a car show every now and then I don't take them all in and when I do I'm usually 50-50 on enjoying it.  Nothing is sadder than to see a car someone dropped $50,000+ on 10 years ago. And, today the colors, graphics, wheels, interior all look pristine - but severely dated.   I'd rather see "works in progress" and have a meaningful conversation with the builder than to hear some guy talking about spending $25,000 on the car "finished" he just bought.

dga57

For the most part, I've been away from car shows altogether for about five years.  Not from lack of interest; my life just sort of got turned upside down and inside out right after Carlisle in 2011.  Priorities changed.  Now, having worked through all that, my first car show attendance since 2011 turned out to be Carlisle 2016.  I wasn't there long because the weather was miserable, but long enough to reconnect with some old friends, see some really nice Fords of all descriptions, and re-ignite my fever.  I have a project going on in the background that I've been reluctant to discuss yet, but will do so soon... it's all coming together... that will mark my renewed participation in car shows.  Looking forward to it!


Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

r4pinto

Don't go to any. Haven't since 2012.


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Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

74 PintoWagon

Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

pmfman

I often go to a car show hosted at a local restaurant. About 10 years ago the restaurant owner owned a brand new Viper, however he found a Bobcat wagon with 33,000 kilometres... he would take the Bobcat
KDC

James Meter

Soon as mine's on the road Imma soup up to the 4 banger & mildly supercharge (NOT turbo) 'er..may not paint it for awhile, but like that 1st or 2nd dude said.. ''Function over Form'' I don't have a need out run the cops..I just wanna make my 'Frog' more slippery than your run-of-the-mill pig!
Bought my Pinto in '12, last tagged in '97. Had it on the road (thanks to a $20) spring '14. Tima to tear it apart, fix it correctly this time....and play with the drive train. Got a totally free & complete drive train-engine, 5 speed, drive shaft, and computer!

blupinto

I'm gonna side with Jennifer on this one! lol  ;D

Tommy, when I took Ruby RedHot to that Pacific Beach show several weekends ago I was also mistaken for a vendor or looker instead of a shower. After I told the security person I was there for the show, THEN the person apologized and sent me and Ruby through.
One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

Quote from: cutelitlputtputt on September 23, 2012, 05:39:40 PM
Hi Dwayne!!!  Maybe I will!!! 
This topic was too good to pass up!!

I think it is the small things in life that give the greatest pleasure!!!


I think so too... and I LOVE that small orange Pinto of yours!!! ;D ;D ;D
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

phils toys

Quote from: Scott Hamilton on September 21, 2012, 12:58:46 PM
What do you think? Are you a Car buff that attends anything related to cars in your area and 200 miles around or are you just milidly intrested in shows etc, you just like to drive your Pinto.
yes i do like most anything to do with cars  today we saw part if this http://www.fireballrun.com/  it is a ralley race for fun and mostly to help rase awareness for missing children
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

cutelitlputtputt

Hi Dwayne!!!  Maybe I will!!! 
This topic was too good to pass up!!

I think it is the small things in life that give the greatest pleasure!!!
Anything to keep her runnin'!

dga57

Quote from: cutelitlputtputt on September 23, 2012, 10:24:11 AM
I think I am siding more with Becky on this one!

You know, actually, the most joy I get is not at a car show, but when I am going down the freeway and I hear a "toot toot" and look over and see a real big smile and a thumbs up!  Sometimes I get a shout out, "I love your car!"

I used to get made fun of driving a Pinto, but no more!!

;D




I agree, Jennifer.  And... it's nice to see you post again.  You've been missed!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

DreamBean

I take my 80 Pinto to maybe 75 percent of Car shows and Cruise In's. A lot of times I luck up on one that I didn't know about. If I don't take it, Someone see's me and ask's "where is your Pinto?" I go to local and out of state shows. I just hate going to them by myself. Don't get me wrong, I get 95 percent positive reaction about the car.
TRUE STORY:
I didn't have the car painted yet, But got a n invite to a show in a small town about 30 miles away. As me and the wife pull into the car show area, A local Cop says" I am sorry, But this is parking for the car show only" Before I could say anything, The speaks up and says" We are here for the car show, And This car will out run any police car that you have" He quickly said he was sorry and escorted me to my parking spot to see what was under the hood.
(sorry, didn't mean to hijack thread)
I love the shows and cruise ins.And yes i go as often as I can with my Pinto.
Go Ford, Go Fast Or Go Home!

Scott Hamilton

Quote from: cutelitlputtputt on September 23, 2012, 10:24:11 AM
I think I am siding more with Becky on this one!

You know, actually, the most joy I get is not at a car show, but when I am going down the freeway and I hear a "toot toot" and look over and see a real big smile and a thumbs up!  Sometimes I get a shout out, "I love your car!"

I used to get made fun of driving a Pinto, but no more!!

;D

Yup, I agree with Jennifer on this one- Every time I drive my Runabout I get at least 3 thumbs up in various forms and I drive it every day...  Always get the 'second lookers- or retake looks' These cars have really turned the corner, they are desirable restoration cool rides, such a difference since the 90s.

I need to go to more car shows locally but have not had the gumsion- I just love driving it.
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

STREETREBEL

I'll be doing the Street Machine Nationals on Sept.29th if anyone wants
to stop by and say hi. It's not a show car, but I really like my Pinto.

cutelitlputtputt

I think I am siding more with Becky on this one!

You know, actually, the most joy I get is not at a car show, but when I am going down the freeway and I hear a "toot toot" and look over and see a real big smile and a thumbs up!  Sometimes I get a shout out, "I love your car!"

I used to get made fun of driving a Pinto, but no more!!

;D
Anything to keep her runnin'!

bbobcat75

the bobcat goes with me to about 10% of shows i go to. A lot of times im working during the shows around here so i stop by for about an hour when i get a chance. if i worked less im sure the bobcat would go 90% of the time.
1975 mercury bobcat 2.8 auto
1975 ford pinto - drag car - 2.3l w/t5 trans - project car

blupinto

Well, Matty, I'm hoping your (and your Pintos) luck will be changing for the better. I'm finding that, while it's alright to go to shows with other Pintos in them (the eye candy is great, and so is hanging with the Pintop Peeps) but there's nothing quite like being the only Pinto, or only bone-stock Pinto- in a car show. THe only reason I go to these is because my Ruby RedHot brings so many smiles to peoples' faces that it really gives me a natural high. People actually stop by and THANK me for putting my Pinto in the show, and more than one person has claimed that my car was their favorite in each show. At Carlisle I was very very humbled at the awards me and my lil' dynamo got- mostly because I did not expect them, and not so sure I deserved them... but I have to say this-  the happiness my car brings to people at these hot rod and classic car shows comes pretty close. Not bad for a car that "everyone had but nobody liked", huh!?

One can never have too many Pintos!

r4pinto

I go to car shows but more often than not the Pinto is broke down so it generally stays at home.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

OTTOGII

I have been to three shows with my Pinto since I bought it.(1.75 years) Not a "SHOW CAR",but a daily driver with original paint/GII stripes/and yes rust! Still,was only Pinto in shows(100+ cars),and got LOTS of + looks and Pinto stories.Just a great way to have fun with our somewhat"RARE"toys.  Otto N Austin

dga57

Personally, I love a good car show and I used to attend and participate in lots of them.  Unfortunately, the health issues of several of my family members have prevented me from being able to do that for the past several years.  Hope to get back to is someday!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Cookieboystoys

I always tell people... I'm not a car guy, I'm a computer geek with a passion for Pinto's. With that said I consider my cars drivers but some are a little bit shiny. I go to the shows (15 of them this year and 2 parades) but my reason has more to do with the Pinto Stampede and raising awareness and donations for the Wounded Warrior Project on a local level vs wanting to show off my Pintos. I find myself enjoying the ones I travel longer distance to go to and have more to offer than just a car show. If I can add in a night of camping along with the show, all the better.

The Pinto I drive the most to the shows is my "Wounded Pinto" and trust me... it ain't shiny, pulls in a-smoking a bit and marks it's spot with the oil it leaks :)
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

racer99

I am not a waxer,more of a function over form guy.
The 79 Turbo wagon gets interest and its not even
close to finished. It wears the original 79 paint
and is getting the 2.3T suckthru setup.A
T5 and the 8.8 with 4.10s are ready to install.


The 72 302 car will get attn but it hasnt been out of the shop yet.
It has been parked since I got it while we finish up the other
9( thats correct) projects. I am a sucker for a good deal on any Ford.

We have a local small show on the first Friday of
every month at the Deli and there is one on the 3rd Sat
of the month next to the Sonic.It is 4 miles to either and
people come from 60-70 miles for both.

Scott Hamilton

What do you think? Are you a Car buff that attends anything related to cars in your area and 200 miles around or are you just milidly intrested in shows etc, you just like to drive your Pinto.
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)


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