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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Pinto Stampede

Started by Norman Bagi, December 02, 2009, 12:47:57 PM

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Norman Bagi

12 days to go, I leave for Denver in Seven.  :fastcar:  Get those Pintos ready!

Norman Bagi

I would like to thank the Pinto Stampede members for stepping up and making INDY a reality.  For those that don't know, INDY instituted a $1,000 fee after saying we could use the track (about three months ago) and then last week when we got the contract they wanted us to carry a $1,000,000.00 liability insurance policy.  We could have quit there, but the members of the Stampede have stepped up and will pitch in and INDY will still happen.

Now that's team work.  I will be sending out an email with the details to Stampede members in the next few days.

:hypno:

pintopaul2003

i want to go SOMEONE STOP BY NEW YORK AND PICK ME UP      PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEE
we have a new addition to the pinto family
Hunter Daniel born nov 21 2006  5lbs 12.2 oz                     pintopaul@verizon.net

blupinto

Only 2 weeks til I start MY journey from Cali.

OK who's coming from California besides Joe Escobar and myself?  :lost:
One can never have too many Pintos!

Norman Bagi

Three weeks from now and we be all ready on the road from Denver to Carlisle.  :lol:

The countdown is sooo close.  :lost:

dave1957

just did an oil change tranny flush and lubed the sport mirrors on the 79 i can now adjust them with the windows up!!!! Have to get new front tires and replace the non working am fm 8 track cb radio...it only works on am and the door speakers are shot
1979 bobcat
1974 red stinkbug
1979 orange pinto sedan aka project turbo hack
1979 orange pinto all glass hatch 52k

r4pinto

Got me a toolbox that the bottom half is going to be filled with all the parts I would need.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Norman Bagi

Getting ready,

Bought the second trailer for the support vehicle. (took care of the registration and the inspection)

Got the trailers set up (spare tires, new straps, trailer tool box) been working on them all day.

Rewired the trailer lights on my truck and got the electric braking system tested.

Been test driving the wifes car breaking in the engine after the rebuild, also been going over mine meticulously.

Started going through parts to see what I will bring that is practicle (I suggest all going do the same)

Stopped off and bought some fluids and necessities for emergency purposes (antifreeze, oil, trans fluid, brake fluid, power steering fluid, bars leek, epoxy, fix a flat, tire plug kits, etc.) cannot be too prepared.

Time for a beer.  :drunk:



Norman Bagi

5 weeks left until the Stampede to Carlisle.  Lets get those cars ready, start collecting those extra parts.  Let me know if you need anything.

Norm
Trail Boss
bosspinto@pintostampede.com

dave1957

the  kickoff day is getting closer just adjusted the valves on the 74 also found some rattle can paint thats close to my79 so im painting a toolbox to match it oh yeh dirty deeds is on the radio
1979 bobcat
1974 red stinkbug
1979 orange pinto sedan aka project turbo hack
1979 orange pinto all glass hatch 52k

Norman Bagi

Looking at those pictures of Fabulous Fords has me pumped.  I am getting stuff together, making phone calls and blasting AC/DC Highway to Hell!!!!!!!!

I am pulling out a day ealier now just to make sure i am on time, rested and ready!

:read: :nocool: :lol: :hypno: :happy_bday: :amazed: :drunk: :2fast4u:

dga57

Quote from: Pangra74 on April 07, 2011, 10:19:48 AM
Well Dwayne,

Let's keep our fingers crossed that the car makes the trip with no breakdowns. I've pretty much rebuilt every inch of it. New rings, rebuilt head, rebuilt T5, rebuilt 8 inch rear, new driveshaft, strut and upper and lower control arm bushings, ball joints, wheel bearings, shocks, added a front sway bar and power steering, and on and on. The car made it to LA and back doing a steady 75mph to keep up with traffic and did a trip to Monterey with no issues. Gonna drop in a new water pump and fuel pump and maybe bring an extra distributor and backup Pertronix kit. I'll be doing 10 hours from Oakland, CA to Wendover, NV on 5/27 and then another ten hours to Denver on 5/28.

You'll be able to tune in as I'll be streaming my drive live.

Joe

It would appear you've covered most of your bases and I believe you'll make the trip without problems.  Of course, there are no guarantees... you could drive a brand new car and have a breakdown.  At least with your Pinto, you know its mechanical workings intimately so it's unlikely anything will arise along the way that you can't handle!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

blupinto

Look who's excited to go to Carlisle...
One can never have too many Pintos!

Norman Bagi

Joe,
I think you will do great, once you hit Denver we are going 55-60 MPH so that overdrive you have will be idling in the low range form that point on. I cannot tell you how envious I am of that T5.  I have a new C4 which can realy rip, but with the new headers and all the add ons, a T5 is just a dream to me at this point.  I was in touch with Fort Riley today working on some plans. We will have a Ford guy meeting us with his Ranchero who worked at the base for 28 years, and he will show us around. Also another one of the Pinto faithful turned us on to a place in Topeka with 3lb burgers. http://www.specksbarandgrill.com I think we will need two for all of us, they also have a kitty litter cake which we may have to try. 51 days to go! some final details to work out.
:lol:   :happy_bday:   :drunk:   :nocool:

Pangra74

Well Dwayne,

Let's keep our fingers crossed that the car makes the trip with no breakdowns. I've pretty much rebuilt every inch of it. New rings, rebuilt head, rebuilt T5, rebuilt 8 inch rear, new driveshaft, strut and upper and lower control arm bushings, ball joints, wheel bearings, shocks, added a front sway bar and power steering, and on and on. The car made it to LA and back doing a steady 75mph to keep up with traffic and did a trip to Monterey with no issues. Gonna drop in a new water pump and fuel pump and maybe bring an extra distributor and backup Pertronix kit. I'll be doing 10 hours from Oakland, CA to Wendover, NV on 5/27 and then another ten hours to Denver on 5/28.

You'll be able to tune in as I'll be streaming my drive live.

Joe
1974 Orange Runabout
1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

dga57

Quote from: Pangra74 on April 06, 2011, 02:53:56 PM
My only regret is not being able to have the car repainted before the trip to Carlisle. Most of the paint is good, only the left front fender isn't original and some of the paint blending into the driver's door. Probably just as well though, as I won't have to worry about new paint getting chipped on this 5,600 mile round trip. Geez that's a lot of driving!!  :fastcar:

Yours is the car I am most excited and anxious to see in Carlisle... other than the bumper modification, I think it probably comes closer to my original orange '74 than any other I've seen.  I can't wait!!!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Pangra74

My only regret is not being able to have the car repainted before the trip to Carlisle. Most of the paint is good, only the left front fender isn't original and some of the paint blending into the driver's door. Probably just as well though, as I won't have to worry about new paint getting chipped on this 5,600 mile round trip. Geez that's a lot of driving!!  :fastcar:
1974 Orange Runabout
1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

Norman Bagi

Just 60 days till we Stampede!!  :welcome:

It seems like yesterday we were over a year away.

Pangra74

If any of you have tried the Pinto Livestream site www.livestream.com/pintostampedelive you have noticed the annoying commercials. I've been doing test streams and have it pretty dialed in. I'm working on having commercial free broadcasts for the entire trip so nobody will have to sit through the advertisements.

Joe
1974 Orange Runabout
1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

dave1957

I think im going to find my zz top cd and listen to  were bad were nation wide tonight!
1979 bobcat
1974 red stinkbug
1979 orange pinto sedan aka project turbo hack
1979 orange pinto all glass hatch 52k

Pangra74

Gotta love the internet. Spreading like a virus....Yeah!

Joe
1974 Orange Runabout
1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

Norman Bagi

Aside form the New York Times article, many other media outlets have ran the story form that artical and the press release we let out a few weeks ago.

Modified Mustangs and Fords:
http://blogs.mustangandfords.com/6748707/ford-events/enthusiasts-celebrate-with-the-pinto-stampede-1660-miles-across-seven-states/index.html

On of my favorites from Politics and Cars:
http://www.politicsandcars.com/blog/1056763_fords-pinto-a-car-the-news-media-killed

The USA Today posted the link to the Times STory:
http://content.usatoday.com/topics/article/Brands/Automotive/Chevrolet/09Hd7yi9S52v7/1

Many more like this one sprang up as well:
http://thegearlord.com/ford-pinto-an-automotive-punchline-celebrates-40-with-road-rally/

What is good about it is, we are making some progress without alot of negativity, we have had just about enough of that.

Pangra74

I did a webcam experiment using Ustream and will be streaming my afternoon cummute on Livestream this evening. I think I'm going to stick with Livestream as the Ustream feed failed after 30 minutes. Got a new Droid 3G phone which works great as a mobile broadband modem and streams pretty seamlessly. I have another audio setup that I don't have with me today which will be better, but today's test stream will just use the camera mic.....not that great. I just want to dial in the video first anyway.

Joe
1974 Orange Runabout
1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

Norman Bagi

75 days to go before we Stampede.  Things are picking up and hopefuly gas prices will not go any higher. Feedback has been good and our Public relations blitz is finaly getting off the ground and should snowball out of control by the time we set sail. We have a few sponsors giving toward helping the trip happen.

We also have some special P.C.C.A. members who have stepped it up. 

Leading the list of contributors is NoForkin who donated $250 toward helping make the trip happen and has also been buying and selling raffle tickets months before we hit Carlisle.

Pangra74

I may try my webcam out tomorrow and drive around. I figured out a clean way to attach it above my mirror. If I do it, I'll post it, but the video will be on the Livestream server anyway, so it can be seen even afterwards. I'll be using my cell as a modem, but when it comes time for the stampede, I'm going to upgrade to a higher speed wireless account. So if the video is a little choppy, don't worry, it's the lower bandwidth for the test. maybe I should drive to San Francisco and go over the Golden Gate for you folks that don't have an ocean!!! If I do it, you can see it at www.livestream.com/pintostampedelive

Joe

1974 Orange Runabout
1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

Norman Bagi

Alot of things are happening now.  I just got word that I will be interviewed about the Stampede on an NPR national radio show.  It will not happen until we get closer to the event, I will post information here and on the pintostampede website.

So far our list of planned events includes:

Fort. Riley, attending the Memorial service on Memorial Day & tour of the facility
Kansas Speedway, (Nascar event)
St. Louis Arch.(press and mini show)
Indianapolis Motor Speedway
Flight 93 Memorial, Paying respects to the fallen
Carlisle and the 40th Anniversary
Ford Parade through carlisle, Pintos will be a featured car
Live webcast of the event.

Stay tuned, more to come!!!!

Norman Bagi

We just reached 30 members!!!!  :happy_bday:  We may only be starting with seven in Denver so far, still impressive to have seven Pintos rolling down the road.  But by the time we reach Carlisle we will have over 30 pintos so far and the list is growing, three more in the last two days!!!!!!  Keep em coming! Their will be a massive onslaught of Pintos at INDY!

:2fast4u:

dave1987

The publicity has be very excited and proud to be part of the Pinto Community, as well as a Pinto owner! I just wish I could be a rolling participant of the Stampede! :(

Keep sending me emails about it, I read all of them and love to stay in the loop with where the Stampede is and what the plans are!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dga57

Quote from: r4pinto on February 26, 2011, 04:19:25 PM

woo hoo!

     My thoughts precisely! :amazed:

     Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

r4pinto

Quote from: blupinto on February 18, 2011, 06:21:32 PM
Well... it looks like it's official... I bought the Carlisle show ticket... and Ruby and me will be in the parade!!! How cool is this!? ;D

woo hoo!
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress


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