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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Norman Bagi

I wish you guys all the best this weekend.  I wish I could be there!  Have fun and let them know that Pinto's Rule! This is our party!  :drunk:  Take pictures, we want to see the Pinto's  :happy_bday:

pintogirl

Anybody in the area of Knott's have a weather report? I only got a 5 day forcast and it showed thunderstorms on Friday!! How does Sunday look??


I'm coming rain or shine, just hoping for shine! LOL
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

pintogirl

Ok, the Ghost is all washed and packed. Now just to fill up and wash the F350, then we can hook up the trailer and load the Ghost. They will sit like that till we leave on Sat. morning!! Oh, have to load some Pinto parts for some peeps in the truck too!


Other then that, I am ready to go. Just need to make it through 4 more days of work!  :P  LOL  Thank goodness 2 of the days are only 4 hour work days!
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

Fred Morgan

For the people that ordered parts this is the car you are looking for, for some reason I bring a different car each year but it will most likely be the only Arizona plated car there with a MAN shifter.  Fred   :)
Fred Morgan- Missing from us...
January 20th 1951-January 6th 2014

Beloved PCCA Parts Supplier and Friend to many.
Post your well wishes,
http://www.fordpinto.com/in-memory-of-our-fallen-pinto-heros/fred-morgan-23434/

qikpnto

Quote from: Pintopower on March 25, 2011, 03:39:33 PM
It is official, we have no '77 or '78 for the show in the Special Display area. I will try to get my sisters Runabout in but again, I still need ANOTHER a '77 or '78. Honestly, I will take anything at this point. Are there really none in California? Am I the only one who has cars that pass smog? Prove me wrong people! I dont care if the damn car doesn't run, if it's nice, I'll take it!

AGAIN, I NEED ANOTHER 77 OR 78 FOR THE SHOW! EMAIL ME NOW!

pintopower@hotmail.com

Hey alberto, My 77 v8 cruzin wagon passes smog and thats with cats thanks to to CA lowering the standards but I have solution for that. As far as getting a 77 for the corral I would have to not open the hood, find some stock wheels and plug one side of the exhaust! haha
77 V8 Cruzin Wagon Custom

PintoZeal76

Quote from: Fred Morgan on March 25, 2011, 08:44:19 PM
I have a 78 trunk but no driver because I am taking 1 out and 3 back.  Fred   :)


Pinto hog :P
Hehehe

Fred Morgan

I have a 78 trunk but no driver because I am taking 1 out and 3 back.  Fred   :)
Fred Morgan- Missing from us...
January 20th 1951-January 6th 2014

Beloved PCCA Parts Supplier and Friend to many.
Post your well wishes,
http://www.fordpinto.com/in-memory-of-our-fallen-pinto-heros/fred-morgan-23434/

turbopinto72

Has anyone been here ? Looks like is a few blocks away with parking

Paul's Place
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Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Pintopower

Ok, we are all set for Carrows in the morning. PoFolks, sadly has closed down so I have no idea where we can meet after. If you have a thought, email me or Brad.

On Sunday we should all try to get to the restaurant by 7:00. It takes about 1 hour to get through breakfast and the other things we do at breakfast.
                 
Sunday: 7:00 am meet at Carrows for breakfast and fun and games/give aways.
              8:30 am caravan to the show.
              3:00 pm show is over.
              3:30-45 Any ideas?
Here is a link for the mapquest map to where Carrows is.

Carrows
8650 Beach Boulevard
Buena Park, CA 90620-3954
(714) 826-4280

http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Buena+Park&state=CA&address=8650+Beach+Blvd&zipcode=90620

If any one has a question, please email turbopinto72 or me.
Alberto
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

Pintopower

Good call. I might have found someone. I will keep that in mind.
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

turbopinto72

Alberto, someone needs to buy this car OR call them and get them to show up at the show ??

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/2269897239.html
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Pintopower

It is official, we have no '77 or '78 for the show in the Special Display area. I will try to get my sisters Runabout in but again, I still need ANOTHER a '77 or '78. Honestly, I will take anything at this point. Are there really none in California? Am I the only one who has cars that pass smog? Prove me wrong people! I dont care if the damn car doesn't run, if it's nice, I'll take it!

AGAIN, I NEED ANOTHER 77 OR 78 FOR THE SHOW! EMAIL ME NOW!

pintopower@hotmail.com
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

PintoZeal76

Finally received my mirror tag!
See you all in a couple weeks! :D


Emily

vonkysmeed

Quote from: Fred Morgan on March 01, 2011, 11:24:48 AM
Any 1 need parts let me know, FREE deliver to Knott's.  Fred   :)

Now I need to see if I need anything that I can afford...
73 Pinto Runabout
351w from 74 galaxie
Heads from 69 Mercury Cougar
82 Mustang GT SROD Transmission and driveshaft
Mustang II rear end with Fairmont 3rd member
6 point cage

Fred Morgan

Any 1 need parts let me know, FREE deliver to Knott's.  Fred   :)
Fred Morgan- Missing from us...
January 20th 1951-January 6th 2014

Beloved PCCA Parts Supplier and Friend to many.
Post your well wishes,
http://www.fordpinto.com/in-memory-of-our-fallen-pinto-heros/fred-morgan-23434/

pintogirl

Ok, finally made my reservation for the Hotel today!! Got my mirror tag about a week ago. So I am all set. Even bought a new (used) truck so we don't have to borrow one!  ;D   
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

turbopinto72

Quote from: Fred Morgan on February 16, 2011, 11:08:30 AM
Brad or Alberto any more info on this show such as Sears parking lot or maybe a place to park my hotel ?  Fred   :)

Fred, its the same deal as last year with the parking at Sears. As far as the Hotels, I cant tell you.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Pintopower

beicholz, that is the plan, 71 to 80.


I cannot get a '78 to the show guys. I can't even find a suitable '77 that I can fake into a '78. Does any one know of a car that we can use? Please email me at Pintopower@hotmail.com. This is important! Please email me soon guys! Thanks.
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I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

beicholz

FYI - Website (http://fordcarclubs.org/) has now been updated with registration form...and features 40th Anniversary Pinto on the very front page!
1973 Pinto Squire, 59K Miles, 2.0, Auto P/B, A/C
1972 VW Karmann Ghia Convert. (Red/Black), 2K Miles on restoration, One Owner
1972 Chevy Vega (virtual owner - in the junkyard)
2011 Subaru Outback 4WD
1 Yam. Golf Cart: Our "car" on Catalina Island

Fred Morgan

Brad or Alberto any more info on this show such as Sears parking lot or maybe a place to park my hotel ?  Fred   :)
Fred Morgan- Missing from us...
January 20th 1951-January 6th 2014

Beloved PCCA Parts Supplier and Friend to many.
Post your well wishes,
http://www.fordpinto.com/in-memory-of-our-fallen-pinto-heros/fred-morgan-23434/

beicholz

Idea: Once we identify the Pinto for each year, can we line them up in order at the show, from 1971 on up?   Wouldn't that be great to be able to navigate from the beginning to the (sad) end?   We could have signs printed with the years all in sequence...
1973 Pinto Squire, 59K Miles, 2.0, Auto P/B, A/C
1972 VW Karmann Ghia Convert. (Red/Black), 2K Miles on restoration, One Owner
1972 Chevy Vega (virtual owner - in the junkyard)
2011 Subaru Outback 4WD
1 Yam. Golf Cart: Our "car" on Catalina Island

Fred Morgan

Mailed my form off today. Not finished with out side and still have all interior to do.  Fred   :)
Fred Morgan- Missing from us...
January 20th 1951-January 6th 2014

Beloved PCCA Parts Supplier and Friend to many.
Post your well wishes,
http://www.fordpinto.com/in-memory-of-our-fallen-pinto-heros/fred-morgan-23434/

skunky56

I spoke with Alberto yesterday, it seems I'm going to bring down the glass hatch 77 Starsky car. Can anyone email me a reg form?
77 Starsky/Hutch 2.3 Turbo A4OD Sunroof
78 Wagon V6 C3

Pintopower

Hello fellow Pinto (and Bobcat) owners!


It's that time of year again; Fabulous Fords Forever time! This year, as you all know, is the 40th anniversary of the Ford Pinto and to commemorate this grand occasion the Ford Car Club Council as allowed us to display 10 Pintos/Bobcats in the invitation only area!


We have selected some cars to represent the Ford Pinto/Mercury Bobcat. We went for originality, period correctness, camp value and most importantly, the love that the car has been shown by their owners. I know we all love our cars, but the ones selected best represent the year they were built. We did not choose cars based on who has the most expensive paint job or the most horse power.


Here are the first and second choices. Please get back to me if you have been selected. If so, I need to know 100% yes or no that you will be there. That goes for the back ups as well. No cars are better than any one else's here.


And now, the list:


1971 
Option 1: Jeff Rosen – 71 Half Hatch Green
Option 2: Brian Shapen - 71 Half Hatch Red
1972
Option 1: Pintony – 72 Wagon Blue
Option 2: A sprint? Any Ideas?
1973 
Option 1: Brian Shapen – 73 Squire Wagon Copper
Option 2: Any Ideas?
1974
Option 1: Racer X – 74 Wagon Brown
Option 2: Original74 - 74 Pinto Sedan Orange
1975
Option 1: PintoZeal – 75 Sedan
Option 2: Any Ideas?
1976
Option 1: Beicholz - 76 White
Option 2: No idea
1977
Option 1: Skunky's 77 Starsky and Hutch Pinto, all Original
Option 2: Skunky - 78 Wagon (yes I know but I don't have any other 77's)
1978
Option 1: David Freedman – 78 CW Orange
Option 2: Any Idea?
1979
Option 1: Scott and Sandy – 79 Bobcat Orange
Option 2: Cutelilputtput t - 80 All Glass Orange
1980
Option 1: Pintopower – 80 Sedan Yellow
Option 2: John McLeod – 80 Wagon Orange
Note: Those of you who have been selected will need to reinstall stock or period correct wheels in order to be within the guidelines of the Ford Car Club Council.
As you can tell, there are some blanks. Please let me know if any of you have any suggestions. DO NOT POST THEM HERE! EMAIL ME! The final group will be selected by a man that attends all of the Ford Car Club Council Meetings and is the reason that we are so well loved. No its not me. If it was me I would've gotten into a fight with someone there by now.
Again, if you know of a good car that I may have forgotten, please email me and DO NOT POST ANYTHING ABOUT WHO SHOULD BE WHERE! Not to be...well... my usual self...but I do not want this thread to turn into discussion about this. Thanks you. My email is:
pintopower@hotmail.com
Thanks guys.
Pintopower
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

vonkysmeed

Got my Flyer and am sending it back today.  MYT XPLD will be there.  May even have more work done.  No promises on one color thru out the car though. 
73 Pinto Runabout
351w from 74 galaxie
Heads from 69 Mercury Cougar
82 Mustang GT SROD Transmission and driveshaft
Mustang II rear end with Fairmont 3rd member
6 point cage

vonkysmeed

Quote from: blupinto on January 14, 2011, 07:27:29 PM
YAY!!! I got my FabFords flyer today... and on it FFF acknowledges the 40th anniversary of our Pinto! How cool is that!?  ;D

If it sells, a stipulation of attending the show must be included.

73 Pinto Runabout
351w from 74 galaxie
Heads from 69 Mercury Cougar
82 Mustang GT SROD Transmission and driveshaft
Mustang II rear end with Fairmont 3rd member
6 point cage

dga57

Quote from: blupinto on January 14, 2011, 07:27:29 PM
YAY!!! I got my FabFords flyer today... and on it FFF acknowledges the 40th anniversary of our Pinto! How cool is that!?  ;D

   My guess is that someone has been doing a little PR work!!!  Still very cool!

   Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

blupinto

YAY!!! I got my FabFords flyer today... and on it FFF acknowledges the 40th anniversary of our Pinto! How cool is that!?  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

redmustangman3

Hi Emily: It depends; I have the black V8 71 for sale. If it sells before the show, I'll bring the wagon. If not, I'll bring the 71. Glad to see you are making the show- see yah there......Joe
1971- 289 V8; B&M C4; 9" with 4:11 posi. Several suspension upgrades and body modifications.
1974- 2.3L wagon,4-spd,totally stock. Medium lime yellow, avacado interior, 99k miles.
1972- 1984 Mustang SVO turbo; 5-speed tremec; 9" rear w/positraction; fiberglass front & doors; upgraded suspension.

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