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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Fabulous Fords Forever 2013

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vonkysmeed

73 Pinto Runabout
351w from 74 galaxie
Heads from 69 Mercury Cougar
82 Mustang GT SROD Transmission and driveshaft
Mustang II rear end with Fairmont 3rd member
6 point cage

Back in Blue

and a few more.......
7 pintos and counting...

Back in Blue

Here's a few more!
7 pintos and counting...

Pintopower

Here are my images (I hope I got every ones cars, I know get distracted):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26161002@N03/sets/72157633320331866/with/8677667531/

Let me know if the link doesn't work right. I wanted, actually, WE all wanted to thank Scott for all the goodies that he sent to us! In fact, here is a picture we took:

We all loved the metal Ford Pinto.com license plate frames but since there were only 3, the group decided that they go to the three members that could not make it to breakfast since they were busy parking the Pinto's at the show and giving out goodie bags. A big thanks again to PushthePinto (Barth) and Pintony (Pintony) for parking the cars and getting us a great spot. Lets also extend a special thanks to RacerX (who prefers to remain nameless, he's in the KGB I suspect  ::) ) who goes to every single Ford car club council meetings to get us our special class!

It was a great show this year and I was thrilled to meet all the new folks! I miss the people that couldn't make it an lets make next year (the 10th anniversary of the West Coast meet) the biggest one yet!

Pintopower
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

pintogirl

Great photos everyone! :D  I sure did miss you guy's this year. I really like making the Knott's show. It is like a vacation for me even though it is only a 2 day trip. I am hoping things go better next year.
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

Scott Hamilton

Looking good!

Who picked up the blue/white racer? Is that the car that was on Hemming's classified for so long for 20k? That is a real prize...

SHINEY!!
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

Srt


now i'm pi$$ed!!!

Quote from: 71HANTO on April 21, 2013, 10:31:54 PM
Steve, I was looking all over for you. Sorry you aren't feeling well. I bought a Spearco AK Miller turbo set up and wanted to pick your brain... Here are some pics. There seemed to be less cars this year (of all types) from my observation (except Broncos)
71HANTO




the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

blupinto

For those who are into the drifting scene... guess who I caught making a getaway from his booth...
One can never have too many Pintos!

blupinto

Here are some of my very favorite Pinto Peeps!  Alas, because I don't recall three of the people in these pix (I am notoriously lousy with names) I'm not going to caption them. I do know Alberto (the lifeblood of the Western Meets) and his awesome sister Francesca, their friend Thomas, and our new friend Steve (Back In Blue) and his lovely family (stupid me forgot to get their picture!). They brought 3 Pintos!  The gentleman in the Hawaiian shirt brought a gorgeous T-Bird, but he is also the owner of the legendary Disco Pinto! After the show, he, Alberto, Francesca and I had pizza together! I'm so glad I didn't change my mind about going! I am tuckered out but in the best way! The weather was perfect!
One can never have too many Pintos!

74turbowagon

Well I I couldn't make it due to ignition problems next year ill be their

blupinto

I hope I speak for all there that a good time was had by all. The Pinto turnout was smaller than I've ever seen, and I missed the familiar faces that usually make the show! My Moxie BluBelle made it there and back without a hitch and with excellent gas mileage.  Scott, I want to thank you for donating the goodies and I want to thank all who made it for being so great! Also,  heartfelt thank yous go to those who wished us a safe and fun trip.


Pic 1: The morning Carrow's line-up

Pic 2: The irrepressible Black Betty.

Pic 3: A Villager Meets A Squire.
One can never have too many Pintos!

71HANTO

Quote from: Srt on April 21, 2013, 09:27:21 PM
Couldn't make it this year. Not feeling well. I hope the Pinto community made us all proud!
Anyone who has been snapping pics please post so I can see what I missed.
Steve, I was looking all over for you. Sorry you aren't feeling well. I bought a Spearco AK Miller turbo set up and wanted to pick your brain... Here are some pics. There seemed to be less cars this year (of all types) from my observation (except Broncos)
71HANTO




"Life is a series of close ones...'til the last one"...cfpjr

Srt

Couldn't make it this year. Not feeling well. I hope the Pinto community made us all proud!
Anyone who has been snapping pics please post so I can see what I missed.
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

Back in Blue

Cool! Ill see you at Carrows.. Thanks !
7 pintos and counting...

vonkysmeed

Quote from: Back in Blue on April 20, 2013, 08:44:18 PM
Hey Brian, I'd like to scoop that entry up from you. I didn't know they were transferrable, but I would/could put another Pinto in if I can.     Steve

not typically transferable.  I would give you mine to enter and I would use my dad's class 9.  Once in the gate, would folllow the rest of the pintos
73 Pinto Runabout
351w from 74 galaxie
Heads from 69 Mercury Cougar
82 Mustang GT SROD Transmission and driveshaft
Mustang II rear end with Fairmont 3rd member
6 point cage

Back in Blue

Hey Brian, I'd like to scoop that entry up from you. I didn't know they were transferrable, but I would/could put another Pinto in if I can.     Steve
7 pintos and counting...

vonkysmeed

If anyone knows of another pinto that did not enter, My dads 32 did not get complete and we have a valid entry into the show.  Meet me at Carrows and we can get you in.

Thank you
73 Pinto Runabout
351w from 74 galaxie
Heads from 69 Mercury Cougar
82 Mustang GT SROD Transmission and driveshaft
Mustang II rear end with Fairmont 3rd member
6 point cage

dga57

Here's wishing everyone going to Knott's this weekend a safe and wonderful trip!  Have a blast, take lots of pictures, and then come back and make the rest of us jealous!  lol
Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

chrisf1219

hi have ticket but unfortuly will not be able to make it due to a new medical surprize. you guys post some pictures if you ca.i have to say closer to home. :(    chris
77 wagon auto 2.3  wagons are the best and who knew I like flames on a pinto!!!!

entropy

The car is prepped and ready to dole out the harshness to any unsuspecting Mustangs that want to rev on our Pintos...   ;D
1972 Hoonabout
SBF swap
-308 cid
-CNC ported Brodix heads
-Edelbrock Super Victor intake
-QuickFuel 750 double pumper built by Siebert
-Single stage NOS Cheater system
8" rear 4.11 posi
G-Force 5 Speed
10 point rollcage


450-ish rwhp on motor.....something a bit more than that on the spray

Pintopower

I do what I can! Freddy is making his debut...this will be his first time on the freeway so cross your fingers Becky!
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

Back in Blue

7 pintos and counting...

blupinto

Moxie willing, you better believe I'm there! Alberto, you cannot escape my presence! lol  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

Pintopower

Anyway, here is the deal for Sunday morning:

Okay, we are all set for Carrows in the morning and in the afternoon.
On Sunday we should all try to get to the restaurant by 7:30. I might get there around 8 so don't wait for me to order. It takes about 1 hour to get through breakfast and the other things we do at breakfast.
                 
Sunday: 7:30 am meet at Carrows for breakfast and fun and games/give anyways.
              9:00 am caravan to the show.
              3:00 pm show is over.
              3:30-45 Ciro's Pizza

Here is a link for the mapquest map to where Carrows is.

Carrows
8650 Beach Boulevard
Buena Park, CA 90620-3954
(714) 826-4280

http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Buena+Park&state=CA&address=8650+Beach+Blvd&zipcode=90620

Here is the address to Ciro's Pizza:

Ciro's Pizza
6969 La Palma Ave
Buena Park, CA 90620  (714) 523-3381

If any one has a question, please email me. Thanks and I will see you in the morning!
Alberto
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

Pintopower

Becky! You can always hang out with Thomas and I! You had better be there, I am flying down there to see all of you and you are included in "all of you"! I think we have 18 or so cars registered (according to RacerX so chin up people! Has anyone seen Brad?
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

blupinto

If I don't make it, it's because the tires or the loose inner tie rod failed. lol  :o
One can never have too many Pintos!

chrisf1219

yes thats the plan carrows is just down the street from the show and of course it looks good with all the pintos go in together.i think there might be more pintos than you think cause i got my ticket last week.the show is sold out so theres 2000 cars. thats alot of fords. cya at breakfast and show.  chris  ;D ;D
77 wagon auto 2.3  wagons are the best and who knew I like flames on a pinto!!!!

Back in Blue

Quote from: blupinto on April 13, 2013, 11:46:03 AM
In the past, the plan was to meet at Carrow's and have breakfast together, then at 8ish we caravan into Knott's.  THe ones who usually organize this are strangely quiet...  :-X   but I think that's still the plan.  Alberto, please correct me if I'm wrong. 

Let's just declare that Carrow's will be the Spot, so everyone can get on board...........  Less confusion will mean more Pintos..
7 pintos and counting...

blupinto

In the past, the plan was to meet at Carrow's and have breakfast together, then at 8ish we caravan into Knott's.  THe ones who usually organize this are strangely quiet...  :-X   but I think that's still the plan.  Alberto, please correct me if I'm wrong. 
One can never have too many Pintos!

74turbowagon

I going first year with a pinto been before with a Prerunner ranger and befor that with a 74 Capri can't wait is everyone meeting some were and driving in together ??


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