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oldeguy

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72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« on: January 29, 2011, 10:37:51 PM »
heres a few pics....
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2011, 10:54:45 PM »
now the donor...
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2011, 10:58:06 PM »
i want those tail lights! LOL ive been wanting to put cougar tails on my bobcat for a while now
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

oldeguy

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2011, 02:23:04 PM »
i see a little lock on the side of my posting...what is this about?
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2011, 06:47:23 PM »
Its so you can lock it if you want
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

oldeguy

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2011, 08:26:37 PM »
i want those tail lights! LOL ive been wanting to put cougar tails on my bobcat for a while now
I did want to use 69 camaro lights...it was just way to difficult, next choice was the 65 T bird lights, but could not find any in the juck yards, but i found cougar lights. The reason for the bigger lights was to be see!
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2011, 08:35:20 PM »
A little history... if anyone care to read it.   
Purchased this Pinto in Englewood, CO in September1978. This was a special trip just to buy and bring back a clean rust free car to Ohio. BTW, by 1978 I logged over 150K miles on all my previous Pinto’s (71 1600, which I converted to a 2.8 l v6 and my 73 2.0l wagon all 4 spd cars) This 72 Pinto is a 2 liter 4 spd car with factory air with yellow paint and white and black(?) interior. Drove it back to Ohio and started to create my hot rod Pinto.
The vision was to have a Camel GT handling turbo powered Pinto streetcar that looked cool and would kick butt. My turbo options were to do the 2.0 from scratch or the new 2.3 mustang turbo engine. I selected the 2.3 because it was a standard complete package that would bolt up the 2.0 transmission and only required new motor mounts...sound ed like a no brainer to me, and that is what I did. The car has a custom, made from scratch by me, z28 style hood scoop that was functional…needed to because of the carb air cleaner mounting surface was almost flush with the hood, the hood scoop was my air cleaner. The pinto hot pants or boss pinto kit' ie the "trans am" look. Paint in metallic black Imron paint.Racer Walsh front springs with sway bar. Re-jetted carb and a cockpit adjustable boost controller. Last was a 2 ½ inch custom stainless steel exhaust. I was able to run 12 plus # of boost with leaded Sunoco 260 all the way into 4th gear to about 4k rpm’s, then it got bad detonation. It surprised allot of trans am's and z28 in it's day. This was my daily summer driver for a few years, then just a now and then driver….once I purchased my new 86 Turbo Coupe., the Pinto became the garage queen and only got driven in 1987 to my new house, then back into the garage and not the “queen” any more.
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2011, 08:43:09 PM »
Todays progress...got the donor car up on jack stands, pull driveshaft, drained the trans, remove radiator fan assy. got most of the wires disconnected from engine, pulled maf and assoc hardware off turbo, need to get fuel line off? how does one remove this type of connector? see pic below
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2011, 08:48:22 PM »
as we say in the boating community...sh e's on the hard!
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

TIGGER

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2011, 10:31:14 PM »
Nice car and nice project.  What are you going to do with the bird when you are done pulling the engine?
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

Bigtimmay

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2011, 05:34:07 AM »
Nice car and nice project.  What are you going to do with the bird when you are done pulling the engine?

I was thinking the same thing about the bird it seems to be in alright condition
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

oldeguy

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2011, 07:59:29 AM »
Nice car and nice project.  What are you going to do with the bird when you are done pulling the engine?
thks for the "nice project" comments!
Well I want to sell it! the body only has surface rust on the underside...wo w! it's pretty clean from a rust stand point. pictures...http://s1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/donchez22/88%20Turbo%20Coupe/
just posted it on one of the t/c sights...it would be a great start for aa race car or a resto project. I would have used this car if it was 1000 # lighter...need that 5.5 to 6 #/hp ratio!
 
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2011, 02:35:57 PM »
Thats cool....let me know if you end up parting it out.  I may be interested in the rear disc brakes for my Saleen.
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

Bigtimmay

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2011, 05:54:05 PM »
If you was closer id try to get that from ya i miss my tc but mine the drivers side framerail was rotted otherwise i wouldnt have pulled it apart.
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

oldeguy

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2011, 06:36:23 PM »
Thats cool....let me know if you end up parting it out.  I may be interested in the rear disc brakes for my Saleen.
tigger, the 8.8 is going in my Pinto after narrowing, and all the other mod required to get it to leaf springs.
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2011, 07:42:47 PM »
If you was closer id try to get that from ya i miss my tc but mine the drivers side framerail was rotted otherwise i wouldnt have pulled it apart.
bigtim...i can not believe how rust free the car is...i really don't want to se it scraped out. but...
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2011, 07:59:30 PM »
progress today....
3 inch ss exhaust almost off...man lots of clamps, but a sweet system. removing the downpipe required me to grind a socket wall really thin to get it on.
went to the parts store to look at replacement fuel connections, I think i know no how to remove.
Trans to bellhousing bolts...two were almost loose, two are really tight...so tight...have not gotten them loose yet!
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2011, 08:53:53 PM »
My donor engine set up. diamond pistons, crower rods, esslinger hardened crank, powerhead head with some port matching to manifolds. a237 cam with roller rocked, stock 88 T/C intercooler, turbonetics t3/t4 stage III, bailey BOV, 65 mm throttle body, 90 mm Lightning MAF, eec la3 w/eec tuner, 55# Delphi injectors, alum. Flywheel, T/C 5 speed, the 8.8 differential with 3.73 gears.
 
my vision...big butt front mounted intercooler, 20 - 25+ # boost, alki/water injection, 11 inch front disc's with GM metric calipers, 5 bolt wheels, 15 x 7 up front, 15 X 8 rears looking at billet street wheels, tires...50 series on front, maybe 60 on the rear. getting the front air spoiler back on. the chassis up dates...6 point roll cage, subframe connectors, caltrac traction bars, new shocks.
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2011, 06:20:15 PM »
well...the engine is ready to come out of the t/c donor!!!! got almost all the underbody stuff off.
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2011, 07:28:46 PM »
you dont need to narrow the tc rear, use a set of axles and brake drums from a mustang 7.5 or 8.8 and it narrows the rear enough to fit 15x8s with 255-60-15 tires.....
75 turbo pinto trunk, megasquirt2, 133lb injectors, bv head, precision 6265 turbo, 3" exhaust,bobs log, 8.8, t5,, subframe connectors, 65 mm tb, frontmount ic, traction bars, 255 lph walbro,
73 turbo pinto panel wagon, ms1, 85 lb inj, fmic, holset hy35, 3" exhaust, msd, bov,

Pinto5.0

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2011, 01:34:13 PM »
That looks like some quick progress. I wonder if turbo Pinto's outnumber Tbirds at this point.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)
'72 sedan 5.0/T5

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oldeguy

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2011, 08:57:47 PM »
my first pinto had close to the same taillights young and dumb
http://s468.photobucket.com/albums/rr42/bradleygt99/?action=view&current=pintorear.jpg
 http://s468.photobucket.com/albums/rr42/bradleygt99/?action=view&current=untitled.jpg
brad :)
brad, see you also went for the mustang back up lights! i was going to do the same....
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2011, 09:17:36 PM »
brad, see you also went for the mustang back up lights! i was going to do the same....
those are small rectangle fog light type lights

brad :)

oldeguy

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2011, 07:35:05 AM »
you dont need to narrow the tc rear, use a set of axles and brake drums from a mustang 7.5 or 8.8 and it narrows the rear enough to fit 15x8s with 255-60-15 tires.....
I do want disc brake on the rear...do I need them? probably not, but i want them.
Did some soul searching...an d looking at it from a dose of reality. it was going to be expensive to convert this T/C 8.8. big "heavy" rotors, caliper that is complex because of e brake, ect. So, my plan has changed to an explorer 8.8, cut down the 31" axle side to match the 27 inch...two cuts on one tube, then one weld. It's got solid disc's, got drum ebrake, got standard axles. Sounds to good to be true, we'll see.  8)
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2011, 08:56:30 PM »
been cold here in OHIO the last couple of days...-5 F 6 AM yesterday.
 
the engine is out....
 
 
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2011, 09:43:54 PM »
got the cars moved around....bird s out in the cold, the Pinto in the heat again.
 
found a 8.8 3:73 geared 97 Mountaineer axle assembly. Oboy...determi ned that i have a standard O2 sensor, ordered master brake cylinder...a centric unit with a plastic reservoir. Hope it works
 
got the bird roller sold...man that took a while.
 
could not re-size the bird shot in the snow!
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2011, 07:14:30 AM »
Up date....22 feb 2011
*my Centric Master brake cylinder was not what I expected. it did not look like the pictures with the plastic reservior...it looks like a standard unit?
* got the engine bay sanded and cleaned up, how working on getting the wire harness cleaned up.
* purchased my new Turbo wiring harness…with MAF
* pulling the heater/AC out
* got the FMIC picked out and purchased…a 17 x 11 x 3 inch core size from fleabay
* reviewed the areas to weld up the cars spot weld seams
* got my 255 l/h walbro pump...think I got the fuel line/filters figured out.
 
 
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2011, 06:48:36 AM »
17 mar 2011...spendin g time in the garage...but doesn't seem that I'm making forward progress. must be...spending 3-4 hours per day!
 
But did get the FMIC install done.
before picture, duing, after....cutti ng the hole was the most difficult, but not bad.
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

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Re: 72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul
« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2011, 09:13:49 PM »
A quick up date...cleanin g and painting part, welding on the frame rails...also working on getting the pull cable bell housing and front sump oil pan on the T/C motor. Ran into a few issues...the front sump oil pan wil not fit because of the main cap straps and the windage device attached to the main caps. so, need to modify the cap. the bell housing need some helicoil.
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar